RoyalSerpent
02-20-2009 08:26 AM (1113 days ago)
Mod may want to make this a STICKY.
Here's a general guide on how to select a PSU for your HP desktop. The majority of standard ATX powersupply (PSU) should fit inside an HP case. The exception would be a slim line case or the esoteric Blackbird.
Look for an 80+ certification on the PSU to save electricity. A PC will normally idle or run at low load 75% of the time. Therefore, look for a PSU that's more efficient in the 50-90W range. An 80+ 350W PSU reaches the 80% efficiency level at 70W output (20% of rated output). The output must be greater than 140W to achieve the same level of efficiency from an equivalent 80+ 700W PSU. So picking a PSU that is rated 25% higher than the maximum ACTUAL load of the rig will save you more $ on electricity.
A modern PSU is designed to achieve peak efficiency between 20 and 80% of the rated output. Running a PSU above the 80% load level will result in excessive heat, noise, and premature failure.
An Nvidia rig with GeForce GTX 280 (1024MB on board RAM) will draw about 350W max from the wall. If we factor in the efficiency of a 80+ PSU, then the actual load on the PSU is only 280W (350 x 0.80). To calculate the required PSU, multiply the actual load by 1.25 (25% margin). In this case we only need a 350W PSU (280 x 1.25) to run this GPU.
Let's apply what we know to a Radeon HD 4870 (512MB on board RAM) rig. 290W max from the wall. Actual load is 290W x 0.80 or 230W. Now apply the 25% margin rule and we arrive at a PSU requirement of 290W (230W x 1.25). Even if we apply a 50% safety margin, the power requirement is still under 350W (230W x 1.50).
There is no need to overspec the PSU by 50% unless you run your PC at full load 24/7. Keep in mind that there is a huge variation in PSU quality and rating. A cheap 500W PSU may not be able to deliver as much power as a quality 350W. Antec Earthwatts/NeoPower/TruePower, Corsair, and Seasonic are quality units widely available at many US retailers.
Many high-end PSUs will need additional power from the PSU in the form of one or two 6/8 pin GPU power plug. You can purchase an adaptor to convert a 4-pin molex to 6-pin GPU power plug.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-radeon-power,2122-3.html
RoyalSerpent
03-08-2009 11:37 AM (1097 days ago)
Found a review of the Corsair 400W (Seasonic-built power supply) that I've been recommending on this forum. This ATX power supply should fit inside most HP case (minus Slimline). It has ample power to drive a modern quad core plus Radeon 4870 or GTX280 video card.
At 100% load, we see a 2.5% drop in the +12VDC rail, which is still within spec and does not affect the performance of any component inside the PC. +12VDC regulation at 82% load is a superb 0.5% with 45C case temperature. Note that the power output and efficiency decrease with higher temperature.
Cheap power supplies are rated at 25C. When these units are subjected to higher case temperature, the output can drop 10-20%.
Again, we discover the sweet spot of a good PSU is 20-80%. A good 400W PSU is more than adequate for many PC users. This Corsair is only $30 after a $10 rebate. That's a great price for a quality/quiet PSU that won't put a huge dent in your wallet.
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MTYwOSw1LCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdA==
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139008&Tpk=corsair%20400wAdditional 20% off w/ promo code "Mar20", ends 3/31
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RoyalSerpent
03-30-2009 09:58 AM (1075 days ago)
Here's a quick review of the Antec Earthwatts 380W power supply (Seasonic-built 324W continuous @ +12VDC with 50C ambient) coupled with Abit IP35-E motherboard, E8400 CPU (CO rev), Radeon HD 4870 video, 2GB Kingston PC2-6400 "N5" RAM, Panasonic 3.5" floppy, and 320GB Seagate 7200.10 hard drive.
The voltage and actual power numbers were obtained with calibrated equipments traceable to the NIST. The E8400 has a thermal design power of 65W, thermal specification of 72C, and VID voltage range of 0.85V-1.36V. The default CPU voltage went from 1.25V to 1.38V in the BIOS to permit overclocking. This will probably raise the thermal power of the CPU to the 130W range. Also added 0.2V to the RAM voltage (2.0Vdimm) to permit speed up to 493MHz at 5-4-4-9-37-2T timing. Other BIOS voltage settings are at the minimum default.
This E8400 tops out at 4.2GHz (quad-pumped to 1868MHz FSB) under Orthos. Although the core CPU voltage is set to 1.38 in BIOS, actual full-load voltage is around 1.35 due to Vdroop + Vdrop. The Big Typhoon modded with 120mm x 38mm medium speed Panaflo maintains a CPU load temperature of 62C with 75F ambient air. Although this chip is rated for 72C operation, its stability under Orthos decreases dramatically above 65C, possibly due to the high FSB speed.
This rig is capable of calculating the number Pi out to 1M digits in less than 11 seconds.
ACTUAL LOAD: 1). System OFF...
3 watts (one red motherboard LED lit)
2). CPU and GPU at idle...
96 watts (C1E and EIST enabled to reduce CPU core speed and voltage when idling) with +12VDC rail at
12.09V3). CPU and GPU at 100% load...
224 watts with +12VDC rail @
12.02V The noise from the PSU is barely audible at 224 watts load (three foot distance in a quiet room). Efficiency is just under 82% @ 224W load. Ripple-noise is a very respectable 21mV. Although labeled as dual rail, the Earthwatts 380 is a single +12VDC/27A 50C continuous power supply...no need to balance-load each rail to achieve rated output.
Even with an optical drive and 8GB RAM, the peak load of this rig should remain well below 80% of rated output.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371005
SilverWhiskers
04-05-2009 10:38 PM (1069 days ago)
I just bought a new HP d5200t desktop. The factory website says it will come with a 460 Watt PSU. However, these computers only come with a 385 watt PSU.
I previously had a HP d5000z only a year ago. Same thing. The factory build it yourself page says it will come with a 460 watt PSU. It is actually shipped with a 385 watt PSU.
A call to HP tech service to ask about this difference brought me one of the biggest stories I have ever heard! They told me on three different ocassions that HP has a "way" of managing the electrical needs of the computer so that a 385 watt PSU is adaquate. I repeated my question. The website says you will get a 460 watt PSU. Why don't you get what you are told you will get? They just kept repeating the same story line. I might expect this from another company but I must admit this behavior surprises me when it comes from HP.
SilverWhiskers
SilverWhiskers
04-05-2009 11:08 PM (1069 days ago)
I should have said that my new desktop d5200t has two hard drives and the new nvidian 1 GB video card. Nvidia emailed me saying the power draw for this video card runs from 400 to 600 watts depending upon what you are doing. Using the 80% factor on a Power supply the power requirement for ONLY the video card EXCEEDS the power of the Power Supply.
My HP d5200t also has the Titainium sound card. The factory emailed me and said the power requirement for this sound card is 150 watts.
My CPU is the 3 Ghz core 2 duo processor made by Intel. An email from Intel tells me the power requirement for this CPU is 135 watts.
Using a mean average of 500 watts for the Nvidia card plus 150 watts for the sound card plus
the CPU requires135 watts equals 785 watts
thank you,
Silverwhiskers
RoyalSerpent
04-06-2009 08:54 AM (1068 days ago)
Return the unit on the ground of false advertising. This is the new HP. Make $ anyway you can. GM went down the same path, and is now heading to bankrupcy court.
I've testest quite a few GPUs. A high-end Nvidia GPU will draw a peak load of about 120W. The folks @ Nvidia is probably telling you to use a 400W PSU. If the GPU is pulling 400W, then its heat sink must be 3x larger than the CPU's heatsink (nominally rated for 120W load). It is possible that a GTX 295 may approach the 160W mark.
What is the model number of your Intel CPU? That 135W number is for a high-end quad core chip like the QX9770. The top of the line dual core E8600 (3.3GHz) has a thermal design power of 65W.
Wost case scenario...
-CPU...135W
-GPU...150W (GTX 295?)
-HDD x 2...40W
-optical drive...15W
-RAM...30W
Total maximum load 370W. Add 25% margin to arrive at a rated PSU load of 462W! Hmmm... This is will the GPU, CPU, and HDDs working at 100% load (almost never under normal use).
More realistic scenario...
-CPU...135W (quad core)
-GPU...100W
-HDD x 2...40W
-optical drive...10W
-RAM...20W
Maximum load 305W with 381W PSU.
So what would I do if I was in your shoes? Demand a 460W PSU or your $ back. Note that my calculation is based on a high quality PSU that can deliver at least 350W continuous at the +12VDC rail with 40C ambient air temperature. A cheap PSU rated at 25C may lose up to 10% of rated power at 40C ambient. That Corsair CX400 should work well.
The cheaper HP PSUs are not very reliable. You can pop the case and write down the specs and model number of that PSU.
http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SLAWM http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SLB9L
Mister_Do
04-06-2009 01:59 PM (1068 days ago)
Hi SilverWhiskers,
I'm sorry to hear about your frustration in dealing with support. I just looked up your product specifications:
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01640562&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&lang=en&product=382... It does state that the power output wattage is 460W.
How did you find out there is only a 385 Watt PSU? Did you open the PC and read the label on the PSU?
I wanted to make sure the information on the Web was accurate so I found a d5000t and looked at the PSU inside the PC. And I think I may have found the problem.
I think there may be some confusion when reading the PSU label. The Max power of the PSU is 460W. However, there is a specification on the label that could be easily misunderstood. There is a part of the label that says THE TOTAL POWER ON.... NOT EXCEED 385W.
If this is what you saw, then you really do have a 460W PSU. That "not exceed" rating is based on total continuous power usage and this is common across the industry. The "extra" wattage between 385 and 460 is for handling power spikes.
Let us know if this is what you needed or if there is something else telling you that your PSU is not the right one for your PC.
RoyalSerpent
04-06-2009 06:21 PM (1068 days ago)
Then it's false advertising if you label a 460W PSU that can only deliver 385W continuous. It is clear that the intention is to mislead un-informed consumer. Peak power output rating is meaningless, since the PSU could potentially deliver up to 700W for 1mS.
Way back when, the home audio manufacturers were making outrageous output spec based on peak power @ 1KHz. The FTC stepped in with the RMS requirement.
The el cheapo garbage PSU will come with glorious label like 500W, then in tiny text on the PSU, we see something like not exceed 400W @ 25C! It appears that this HP PSU is a 380 watter. We still don't know if this output is @ 25C or 50C.
The $30 entry-level Corsair CX400 is rated to deliver 400W continuous at 40C ambient, with a maximum of 360W to the +12VDC rail.
Antec Earthwatts 380 is rated to deliver 380W continuous at 50C, with a maximum of 324W to the +12VDC rail.
Enermax 500 is rated to deliver 500W continuous at 40C, with a maximum of 432W to the +12VDC rail. That's truth in labeling. The only time I see these "common" misleading PSU specs is when I come across cheap POS Chinese units. You buy garbage, you get garbage.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.aspx?CurImage=17-139-008-08.jpg&Image=17-139-008-13.jpg%2c17... http://www.antec.com/Believe_it/product.php?id=NjM=
http://www.enermaxusa.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=167 Here are some el cheapo PSUs with misleading specs:
1). $15 480W PSU with 330W continuous
2). $25 550W PSU with 460W continuous
I don't mind seeing this type of "inflated labeling" on a $400 Wally World Special. But when a customer fork over $2.5K on a PC, then I expect the manufacturer to be more "honest" about the advertised spec. The PSU is one of the most important component in a PC. There is no excuse for slapping a "value" 380 watter on a $2.5K PC!
Message Edited by RoyalSerpent on 04-06-2009 07:56 PM
SilverWhiskers
04-06-2009 10:10 PM (1068 days ago)
WOW! Thanks for the great data! To answer your question my computer has a core 2 duo processor rated at 3.0 Ghz. I hate to admit it but I don't remember the exact processor model.
The info I got from Nvidia was just an answer to my generic question "how much power does your 1 gig video card draw"? I did send questions to several of the PSU manufacturers. The two that answered told me I needed from 800 watts to 1,000 watts PSU.
The d5200 also uses a HP Pocket Media Drive 360 GB. I doubt it draws much power. However, this computer comes with the cables to add two more SATA hard drives and it has three bays in the upper tower for extra DVD burner(s) or floppy drive(s) or whatever. Since the architecture of this computer is intended to be expandable by the user I believe the installation of a 385 watt PSU is quite small and it could not possibly have any power reserve for optional devices that are intended to be added.
This disapoints me as much as the new TiVo TV tuner cards. That is cards with an (s). This came with the best TV HP offers. They install two TV tuner cards in the machine. New from the factory I checked the device manager and found a conflict between the TV tuner cards. After 11 hours on tech service and three recoveries completed the problem is not solved. When tech service does not have an answer they insist you do a recovery. This new computer with all the bells and whistles leaves me quite weary.
I was never able to get tech service to understand that since the computer was new out of the box the recovery would not have anything to recover. Finally they admitted they are not trained in TV's. I am glad they took the time to attempt to help me. However, it would have been better since the tuner conflict is a known issue they handed the call to someone skilled in this area.
Today I had a case manager call me and he kept telling me he wanted to buy it back. I bought HP because I like HP. This is a replacement for my HP d5000t that they sent for repair three times and instead of installing new hard drives (RAID1) because or SMART error codes, they did a recovery each time. One this one I will stick up for the case managers. They told the repair department to replace the hard drives due to error codes every time I started the computer. The repair folks ignored the case managers orders three times in a row and they gave me a new computer. I do believe the repair folks are a contracted outfit. I was unable to exert any influence over the repairs. So this is HP computer # 2 since October 2008.
SilverWhiskers
RoyalSerpent
04-06-2009 11:36 PM (1068 days ago)
I'd jump on the buy-back offer. I'm on the West coast. It takes about 2 days to assemble and test the rig. Per my previous post, the finished product cannot be subjected to high G loading during transport. Anyone can buy parts. The secret is final assembly and tuning/testing to achieve a fast and reliable PC.
It's very important to know exactly what you want to do with this PC. I would only go with a quad core if you're going to encode movie. Hold off on blue ray at this time. Wait for the burn technology and media to mature before engaging. I'm not a big fan of the Hauppauge unit. The SiliconDust HDHomerun with dual digital HDTV comes with a very good receiver. The dual tuner permits watching and recording at the same time. It's not cheap at $160, but the technical support and hardware integrity is very good.
PSU manufacturers will tell you to buy the biggest PSU that they make cause there is a huge mark-up with those +800 watter monsters. I rely on calibrated equipments to tell me how much power is being drawn from the AC outlet. We know that the Intel spec is very accurate (135W). Since each 6-pin GPU power plug is rated up to 75W, a GPU with dual power plug will not draw more than 150W. A quality 500-500W PSU should provide ample room for future upgrade (single GPU rig).
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815327005 Here's a quick run down on the quad core Intel rig:
Motherboard...$99 (3 yr warranty)
CPU...$230 (overclocked to +3.4GHz with 3 yr warranty)
CPU cooler...$37
8GB RAM...$82 (lifetime warranty)
Power supply...$70 (5 yr warranty)
Video card...$95 (3 yr warranty)
PC case...$60
DVD writer...$50
Hard drive (2 x 1TB)...$240 (5 yr warranty)
Fans and fan controllers...about $40
Card reader...$15
Windows XP Pro 64-bit...$140
Note that you will need 64-bit windows if you want to use more than 3GB of RAM. The drawback is that some older applications may not work with 64-bit windows. Final cost is $1158 + tax + $200 for assembly and system configuration. You can expect to save an additional 17% if you purchase equivalent components when they go on sale.
All else being equal, an AMD quad core will cost $100-$120 less than in Intel quad core rig. Both will easily outperform any $2000 quad core rig sold at the local retailers.
I'd go with an overclocked E8400 @ +4.0GHz righ now. This rig should be blazing-fast for the next 2-3 years. By that time, you can swap out the MB, RAM, CPU, and GPU to take advantage of the latest PC architechture.
Message Edited by RoyalSerpent on 04-06-2009 11:52 PM
SilverWhiskers
04-07-2009 01:04 AM (1067 days ago)
Very Interesting comments! I will check inside the case to make sure. Do you know anything about the new TiVo style TV tuners? My NEW d5200t came with the new and expensive TV tuner card that allows forward and reverse and other options. HP simply added a SECOND tuner card in the desktop.
Turning it on gives you a picture. The person on TV will say one or two words and it suddenly becomes pixelated. In another moment or so the pixelation spreads all over the screen with a frozen picture and audio. In another moment the pixelation suddenly gives way to bright yellow colors all over the screen.
In another moment it begins all over again with a picture and a word or two.
I have calibrated the digital antenna using Windows Media Player. It tells me the digital antenna is working well.
Things I have noticed:
OUT OF THE BOX: Device Manager showed a conflict with the two tuner cards. Using the Device Manager to disable one card failed to fix the problem. Switching to the other card made no difference.
Tech service keeps telling me to run recovery. I have a total of 12 hours on this computer. Eleven of these hours was in four HP tech service calls where they insist on taking remote control. From the time you dial the phone until the time an HP live human takes control of your computer is one hour.
I had a case manager I don't know call me and he said I had too many calls to tech service. He wanted to buy it back so I could go buy another brand of computer. My previous case manager would have never spoken to me that way and to be honest I was shocked.
Thanks for the good advice!
Time will tell I guess,
SilverWhiskers
SilverWhiskers
04-07-2009 01:45 AM (1067 days ago)
I have a Enermax FMA2 (535 ATTS) nib. tHE MODEL NUMBER IS: eg565
I bought two of these on sale before a store went out of business. I bought two of them and put one in my Sony. Heck, they were only $65. I was under the impression that these were dual rail PSU's and now that I look at the box I don't see that written.
Is it good enough to build up one like you are suggesting? Should I save it as a spare?
SilverWhiskers
RoyalSerpent
04-07-2009 08:15 AM (1067 days ago)
That Enemax will be fine. It's based on an older design (less efficient...extra 5W-25W from the outlet depending on load) but the output voltage and current are stable. Verify that there are two 6-pin PCI-E connectors to power a high-end GPU. Otherwise, you'll need to use a molex to PCI-E adaptor to run an expensive video card.
The Hauppauge software is not very good. You may want to look elsewhere for TIVO capability. I don't trust a software-based program like WMP for signal strength. A quick test is to move an analog TV to the location of the antenna and attempt to pickup the local analog broadcasts. If you get a quality picture, then there is sufficient signal for a good digital reception. Another approach is to buy a Zenith DTT 901 digital tuner converter (about $50 at Kmart if you don't have a $40 FCC coupon). This unit comes with a very good LG tuner section and signal strength meter. Tune to the desired channel and verify with the strength meter that the signal is good.
Based on your descriptions, the most likely culprit is weak signal from the antenna.
I'd call the case manager ASAP and arrange for the return of the PC. With $2.5K cash, you could build one today, and have enough $ to upgrade the MB, RAM, and CPU in 2-3 years.
Mister_Do
04-07-2009 09:34 AM (1067 days ago)
Hi RoyalSerpent,
I'm not an expert on power supplies, and you obviously know more about them than I do, so I could be wrong in what I stated. The power ratings on the labels are a little tricky to read. It could be that the 385W is continuous power for the devices running on the PSU device connectors, but does not include power for the Motherboard. Also, from what I've seen in looking this up, this is an industry standard, not an HP-only standard.
One thing I do know is that HP does a lot of testing on the power supplies and the components they ship with. The PSU must meet the specs of the components that are shipped with it.
Here is an HP Support document talking about the ratings that I was speaking to:
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/Document.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&objectID=bph06788&jumpid...
Mister_Do
04-07-2009 09:53 AM (1067 days ago)
Hi SilverWhiskers,
Your PC power supply is capable of running all of your devices. It is not a 385W PSU. You can upgrade your PC hardware as well, and unless you add a very high end graphics card, multiple drives, max memory, and maybe another tuner, you likely won't see an issue. I've upgraded much lesser PCs with less PSU Watts and never saw an issue. HP puts time into making their PCs easily upgradeable. They even provide you support documents and videos on how to replace and add devices. For reference, here is a link to a page with a bunch of hardware upgrade info for your PC:
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/documentSubCategory?rule=29120&lc=en&dlc=en&cc=us&product=3824558... Can you tell me more about the TV Tuner(s) issue?
Where are you seeing a conflict in the Tuners?
Perhaps there is a configuration issue we can help with to get this working for you.
RasterBlaster
04-07-2009 10:18 AM (1067 days ago)
Just to add another opinion, you have purchased a pretty good computer that has a decent power supply. Mr. Do! is correct in showing you that the label can be confusing. The 385W shown on the power supply label refers to the total Wattage that you should not exceed when using the 12V supply lines. Your power supply has a total output of 460W (inluding the 5V and 3.3 V supply) and should be fine for most/all of the common upgradable components available today.
I totally disagree with RS in his thinking that the power supplies in HP PCs are poor quality (or those in Dell, Gateway, etc...). I'm not saying this because I work for HP, although I do know that HP rigorously tests its power supplies in the configuration the model ships with. So no, HP does not ship PCs with power supplies that are incapable of powering the components it comes with. To think that of any retail PC manufacturer doing this is just silly. The rating of the power supply is typically tied to the price of the PC - you buy a less expensive PC, the rating of the power supply will probably be less and your ability to upgrade components will be less as well. The "quality" of a power supply should really be thought of as "max rating given the price of PC".
I agree with RS in that . . if you really invest the time and do your homework you can build a PC that is more tailored to your liking and you can make one that will outperform more than 98% of the retail PCs. I have made several over the years and it is a fun hobby. However, I seriously doubt that you will be able to do so and come close to hitting the same price range. Retail PC manfufacturers can work with component manufacturers to buy large volumes of quality components while holding them to certain quality standards... the save money in packaging and overhead as well.
RoyalSerpent
04-07-2009 12:57 PM (1067 days ago)
If the PSU is rated to deliver 460W continuous @ 40C ambient, with 385W continuous on the +12VDC rail, then it should work well that rig. I doubt that HP would hook up each PSU to a 1KW load tester and apply the rated load on each rail for 1/2 day in a 40C thermal chamber to confirm the rating. Furthermore, I'm sure that HP doesn't apply a cross load test to check for proper booting when there is a minimum load on the 3.3VDC and 5VDC rail(s).
Engineers rely on the expertise of qualified vendors to test the equipments. The labeling of PC PSU can be subjected to wide interpretation because it is not regulated by the FTC. If HP has a superior product that is a cut above the cheap Chinese Saturday Night Special, then why not join the ranking of reputable PSU vendors by labeling the unit as 460W continuous at 40C (3.3VDC + 5VDC + 12VDC) with maximum of 385W continuous (12VDC)? Here's another one for the suggestion box. If the 12VDC output is a single rail unit, then label it as a single +12VDC rail with xx A at 40C ambient. Don't put 12V1, 12V2, and 12V3 unless each rail is monitored by a current limiting device.
Also spend a little $ for an 80+ or 80+ bronze/silver/gold sticker. It's a cheap way to advertise a green PC.
The actual cost (BOM...or bill of materials) of a quality 380W PSU vs. 550W PSU is less than $10. Anyone that has disassembled an Antec Earthwatts 380 and Antec Earthwatts 500 (not 500-D) will know what I mean. The interior electronics are virtually the same except for a few key components like primary filter cap, fuse, toroidal transformer, and output devices. I'm not saying that all HP PSUs are junk. My point is if someone paid $2.5K for a PC, then the PC should come from a top-tier PSU vendor. We shouldn't have to settle on generic labeling to decipher what's underneath the hood. I could probably identify a well-built PSU within 30 seconds of opening. Others have to rely on the side sticker.
While it's difficult to build a Wally World Special with windows for $300, I would submit that one can spend $1500 at Newegg for a rig that's better than the OP's 2.5K PC. The HP rig comes with 1 yr warranty. All the major components inside a custom rig are backed with a 3-5 yr mfr warranty. How much would it cost to purchase this additional protection from HP? This could be a big deal if you happened to own an HP whose MB or GPU went south shortly after the warranty.
Have some time to kill, so I went to the HP website to build a d5200t with the following components:
- Vista Premium SP1
- Q9550 CPU
- 4GB RAM
- 1TB HDD
- DVD writer
- ATI HD 4850 GPU
The final cost is $1379 after rebate.
Now let's take a look at a custom rig with similar components:
- XP Pro 64-bit (I hate Vista but don't have a choice for XP)...$139
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116378 - Q9550...$270 overclocked from 2.8GHz to +3.4GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116378 - 4GB DDR2 8500 overclocking RAM...$30
http://shop3.frys.com/product/5698491?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG - 1TB HDD...$109
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136284 - DVD burner...$26
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151173 - PC case...$55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042&Tpk=antec%20300 - Radeon HD 4850 GPU with adjustable core voltage...$140
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102770 - Card reader...$11
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820300901 - 550W Corsair PSU...$60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139004 - Overclocking Intel motherboard...$94
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128372 - CPU cooler...$27
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233003 Total cost for parts is $961. Allocate $200 labor. The final cost of this custom PC is $1161. That's 19% cheaper than the HP PC. If you can build your own PC, then the savings is a whopping 44%!
Seeing that we have a better motherboard, RAM, power supply, CPU cooler, and PC case, why not switch to a Q8300 CPU and overclock it to at least 3.4GHz? We'll pocket an $80 savings while sacrificing no more than 2% in performance due to the smaller L2 cache. The RAM and motherboard have sufficient headroom to overclock a good Q8300 chip to 4.0GHz! Remember that all of these quad core chips are based on the same technology.
Final hit to the wallet...$1081 for a custom Intel quad core rig capable of at least 3.4GHz vs. $1379 for a stock HP Intel quad core at 2.8GHz. The custom rig has 3-5x longer warranty on major components, better case ventilation, zero pre-loaded crap ware, and a choice of XP or Vista OS. If you're a savvy shopper and can wait for parts to go on sale, then you can expect to shave another 15-20% off the $1081 quote.
Customer support should be vastly superior to any large box-maker because you get to talk to the guy/gal that design and build the PC.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115207Message Edited by RoyalSerpent on 04-07-2009 06:21 PM
clodzilla319
04-07-2009 03:17 PM (1067 days ago)
Not to hi-jack anyones thread here, But, i recently bought one of these >
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817226001&nm_mc=AFC-Smarterdeals&cm_mmc=AFC-Sm... in an HP a6645f with a Nvidia Gts 250(GPU)... installed it, turned it on.... and
lights and fans on power supply ... Check
case and cpu fan.........................Check
DVD drive spools up....................check
but.... the video card fan spools up to 100%....and no signal to monitor....
put the "flea-bay cheapie" back in and everything seems to work ok...(worried about its longevity, seems real cheap)...
sent it back, got another one... same problem.
emailed SigmaProducts, and they quickly returned my e-mail, saying...
HP only work with their own power supply, all of the standard ATX POWER SUPPLY in market won't work with it.
uh, Wut?
"
does the "ATX12V V2.01" mean anything? I've noticed other PSU's have like V2.0, or V2.2, V2.02, Etc... wtf does THAT mean??
Message Edited by clodzilla319 on 04-07-2009 03:34 PM
RoyalSerpent
04-07-2009 03:54 PM (1067 days ago)
Sigma is full of BS. The el-cheapo Fleabay Special didn't have any problem with your HP, right? I suspect the Sigma unit has a problem powering up when there is minimal startup load on the 3.3V/5V rail. Rev 2.01 should work with your HP.
Get the $30 Corsair CX400 and you'll never worry about PSU again. Newegg subscriber gets another $10 off...need to look for that coupon code...
clodzilla319
04-07-2009 04:28 PM (1067 days ago)
Hopefully I'll get to RMA this POS back for a refund...(it sure is pretty though...)
I'm liking the corsair psu's....
but for an "eventual"(buying parts here and there..) Build..
thinkin this> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139004
good enough for a GTS250 SLI rig?? (maybe GTS275's later) on a intel E8500 system....
RoyalSerpent
04-07-2009 05:39 PM (1067 days ago)
If you plant to LSI or CF, then the 550W Corsair would be the better buy. Corsair's rebate is slow, but you will eventually get your $. Make copies of all the forms.
RoyalSerpent
04-08-2009 09:49 AM (1066 days ago)
@ clodzilla...
Found the code for the Corsair CX400...EMCLRLN23. $30 after code and rebate for today only. Really no need for the 550, which is also on sale for $55 with code EMCLRLV34.
clodzilla319
04-08-2009 01:25 PM (1066 days ago)
Thanks, But I gotta hash it out with them on this Sigma PSU first... I aint payin' no re-stocking fee on a dis-continued POS that doesnt work correctly,
this was the e-mail i received from sigma.
"HP only work with their own power supply, all of the standard ATX POWER SUPPLY in market won't work with it. "
But, I'm confident Newegg will come through...especially with the amount of money I'm 'bout to spend there...!
And your mostly right about the "no need" for the 550, But I'd like to see at least 2 Pci-e connectors on it... these frakin video cards, with their 2 plugs on each card....
RoyalSerpent
04-15-2009 12:14 PM (1059 days ago)
Some may claim that you'll need an expensive PSU to overclock a modern quad core rig. Let's see. I use the Earthwatts 380 and the low-powered 7200GS video card so that we could get a closer estimate of the actual CPU load.
Why pay $325 for a top-of-the-line 45nm Intel quad core CPU (non I7), when one can engage a Q8200 with 1/3 on-board cache for $100 (sale @ Micro Center)? The 2.33GHz Q8200 shares the same platform as the 3.00GHz Q9650. The major difference is 4M L2 cache vs 12MB L2 cache for the Q9650. At the end of the day, core speed = KING.
We also want a motherboard that could sustain the Q8200 north of 550MHz FSB (effective 2200MHz FSB). The Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P or UD3R fits this bill. $100 isn't dirt cheap, but we've already saved a lot of $ with the purchase of the Q8200.
The CPU core clock should increase by about 50% to achieve real-world gain across the board. Anything less than 20% = noise for the average user.
Intel provides a 3 yr warranty on this chip if the core voltage is limited to 1.36V and thermal load under 71C. We're going to set the load voltage at 1.3 for this test and see how far this chip can overclock with Prime95 as the stability test.
After two days of tinkering, I was able to run Prime95 at a core speed of 3.7GHz with actual CPU load voltage of 1.28 and peak thermal load of 60C at 72F ambient. That's a massive 58% overclock with only a 5% increase in core voltage. Had to lower the core speed to 3.66GHz when subjected to my 85F ambient torture chamber.
This motherboard is a little picky on RAM. I have a set of RAM that's stable at 592MHz with my IP35 board, but this board will only allow me to run up to 530MHz. Will need a few more days to discover the proper timing to unlock this bottleneck. Based on the core voltage and temperature readings, this Q8200 chip should top out around 3.8-3.9GHz. That's consistent with the overclocking potential of their more expensive cousins.
The load imposed on the PSU with this Q8200 is very encouraging. At idle, the systems draws 62W. When running Prime95 (small test for max current load), the power meter displays a paltry 161W of actual load. This makes sense because these newer 45nm quads require only a tiny bit of core voltage to hit +3.5GHz. I could easily add a Radeon HD 4870 1GB video card and still be able to power this 3.7GHz quad rig with an Earthwatts 380 PSU! What you don't want to do is to buy a cheap motherboard, dial in 1.45 core voltage, and crank up the FSB.
The major challenge in overclocking this low-multiplier chip is BIOS configuration. There are thousands of possible configurations and you have to get them right to achieve low core voltage and high CPU core speed.
Even at a leasure 3.7GHz, this overclocked quad still manage to complete the Super Pi 1M benchmark in 14.625 sec. For reference, a stock HP rig with the same 2.33GHz Q8200 processor comes in at 22.7 sec. There are no nearby big-box quad rigs with Q9650 for comparison testing. My guess is around 18 sec.
Message Edited by RoyalSerpent on 04-15-2009 12:19 PM
clodzilla319
04-18-2009 05:37 AM (1056 days ago)
Wow, ^ thats impressive!! 3.7 from a 2.33 cpu.... <my hats off to you>
RoyalSerpent
04-19-2009 09:00 AM (1055 days ago)
These value quads have incredible overclocking head room because they share the same core platform as their much more expensive Q9XXX brothers. This 2nd Q8200 rig manages to hit 3.6GHz at default CPU core voltage (1.25VID)! Peak thermal load under Prime95 (72F ambient) is 52C thanks to the uber-low load voltage of 1.9! The Intel thermal spec is 71C max for this processor. 1M Super Pi run of 14.568 with RAM setting in TURBO mode. It's on par with an overclocked Phenom II X4 940 @ 3.6GHz.
This is a 4.0GHz chip. The bottleneck is the locked 7x multiplier. Running the FSB at 571MHz (effective 2284MHz FSB) requires a lot of VTT and MCH voltages, which will ultimately shorten the life of the motherboard. The Q8300 with 7.5x multi would have a better chance of cracking the 3.8GHz barrier.
Recent price drop has made these chip very popular among overclocking enthusiasts. I still have four un-filled orders.
Message Edited by RoyalSerpent on 04-19-2009 09:01 AM
bigtuna690
04-26-2009 03:30 PM (1048 days ago)
so the corsair cmpsu 400w atx 12v v2.2 will work in my pavilion elite m9500z with
-2.5 ghz quad core
-radeon 4970
-4 gigs ram
-1hard drive
-1 optical drive
-mid range sound card
Also, will i need 2 4-pin cpu connectors for quad core?
Message Edited by bigtuna690 on 04-26-2009 07:44 PM
Message Edited by bigtuna690 on 04-26-2009 08:08 PM
RoyalSerpent
04-26-2009 09:24 PM (1048 days ago)
It will fit your case. The CPU power connector will split in half to accommodate a 4-pin motherboard. The ability to drive a quad is a function of the board's design.
clodzilla319
04-28-2009 02:59 PM (1046 days ago)
>to RoyalSerpent<
what do ya' think of a Q9400..? local Micro Center has them for $179..E8400's for $129, too
finally worked out the Rma with newegg, and am the proud owner of a Corsair Tx 650x PSU,
Coolermaster 335 case, new optical Drive, 500 Gb WD Black, to Pair with the 8Gb of OCZ Ram and the GTS250 GPU...
just awaiting final mobo decisions, and CPU....And oem or retail OS....
evga 750i sli FTW is the current #1 choice...
RoyalSerpent
04-29-2009 10:51 AM (1045 days ago)
Q9XXX with 8x or higher multi should allow you to overclock the CPU north of 3.4GHz. Right now, if you're a gamer and want a quad, then the AMD Phenom II X4 9550 is a better deal. The on-board memory controller is better for gamers, plus this chip has the potential of +3.8GHz overclock.
I still favor the higher core speed of duos. Higher core speed benefits all tasks. At this time, the extra two cores are best suited for encoding movies. Playing games at native 22" resolution is less dependent on the CPU above 3.4GHz core speed. Put the $ saved toward a better video card.
Currently testing a new rig based on an E8400 with E0 stepping from MC. The chip is stable at 4.13GHz with stock 1.25V. Raising the core voltage to Intel's maximum recommended 1.36 yields 4.45GHz. Will post some pics if the chip holds up in the 85F oven. I didn't even need to mess around with any other voltage setting on my trusty Abit IP35-E board. Dial-in the core voltage, set memory divider @ 1:1, and crank up the FSB. You won't get past 3.0GHz if you use this strategy on a quad.
Serious gamers will probably want DX10. That would dictate W7 SP1. In the meantime, There's nothing wrong with XP Pro SP3.
Never future-proof a PC because technology moves very quickly in just six months. The best performance/value is the E5200 @ +3.4GHz. This should be good for 1-2 years. My 2nd choice is the E8400. We should see price drop below $100 by summer.
http://i682.photobucket.com/albums/vv182/royalserpent99/E8400a2.jpgMessage Edited by RoyalSerpent on 04-30-2009 09:59 AM
Kantucki
05-05-2009 04:42 AM (1039 days ago)
I just recently bought an HP Pavilion,
the a6703w-b desktop bundle. It came with a 250 watt power supply and on board video which was not conducive to playing Call Of Duty 4. :smileysad:
So I got on the newegg website and bought the
Corsair 550 along with
BFG GeForce 9800GTX + 1GB. Everything fit perfectly (yeah, even that gigantic BFG video card) and it runs Call Of Duty 4 without a sweat at high settings. :smileyvery-happy:
RoyalSerpent
05-05-2009 05:04 PM (1039 days ago)
A basic Earthwatts 380 would be sufficient, but that Corsair is still a very nice PSU. I prefer to stick with the Corsair 400 or 450 for most of my single GPU builds. The $ saved is put toward the Radeon 4770. Very fast card with low heat output.
RoyalSerpent
05-18-2009 12:26 PM (1026 days ago)
Bought this E5300 CPU/MB combo last weekend at Fry's for $80 (about $53 for CPU). The CPU is stable @ 4.03GHz overclock with 1.33 load voltage. Load temperature under Orthos is 48C (76F ambient air temperature), which is significantly lower than the rated specs of 74C at 1.36V max. The system idles at 48W. Orthos load voltage is 106W. These numbers were obtained with a calibrated power meter.
These 5xxx CPUs are great overclockers (3.4GHz min). Even with a high-powered graphic card, the total load on the PSU should not exceed 250W.
Hendrix27
06-05-2009 01:08 PM (1008 days ago)
Ok, if you folks could forgive my blunt question here. My eyes tend to glaze over with all technical info in regard to power supplies.
Anyway, I have an m9510f, and I'm looking for a 550w power supply. Any suggestions on something that'll fit?
Kantucki
06-05-2009 02:08 PM (1008 days ago)
Hendrix27
06-07-2009 04:00 PM (1006 days ago)
Ok, thanks for the recommendation.
TBone
06-14-2009 09:12 AM (999 days ago)
Hey guys,
Im going to make this plain and simple.
When it comes to computers im very savvy, when it comes to replacing the PSU, I have no idea what Im doing.
I have an HP Pav a1630n Media Ed with a ATI Radeon x1600 graphics card using dual monitors(not sure if thats relevant or not). I know that It needs 92watts at idle and 156 at full load, so If my reading was correct. Then the actual load is (160W*.8) = 128W, then adding the 25% margin (128W*1.25) = 160W. So I need to use a PSU that has an output of about 160W, correct? But then the actual load will fall right at the 80% efficiency limit, which will give it less margin to increase the load in small amounts before it will go over 80% and it will just run hotter.
I would appreciate if anyone could correct whatever it is I dont know what im talking about, and if you would like, suggest good PSU's too :smileytongue:
Thanks alot.
RoyalSerpent
06-14-2009 05:09 PM (999 days ago)
Best PSU is the Antec Earthwatts 380. Corsair 400CX is also a good buy. A more powerful PSU will not draw much more current when PC is idling. Perhaps an extra 3-4 watts.
In theory, a 160W PSU will do the job, but you're not going to find a quality unit with this wattage.
TBone
06-14-2009 08:16 PM (999 days ago)
Cool, thanks alot.
Do these both come with the 4-pin on black and yellow cords?
Message Edited by TBone on 06-14-2009 08:41 PM
RoyalSerpent
06-15-2009 06:03 PM (998 days ago)
The PSU comes with a 6-pin GPU power plug. There's also a 20+4 detacheable power plug for the MB.
RoyalSerpent
07-15-2009 07:32 PM (968 days ago)
oabeywon
07-23-2009 04:37 PM (960 days ago)
My PSU just died on me and i dont know why. i purchased a new one @ 430Watts. after connecting everything all i get on power up is a beep ever two seconds that dosent stop. its not a POST beep at all, it something else. any idea waht it could be. i have a hp pavillion a1648x and im haveing a very hard time locatione the bios chip
RoyalSerpent
07-24-2009 12:24 PM (959 days ago)
Reseat all boards and connectors inside the PC. Make sure that the two power plugs are connected to the board. Connect only the mouse, keyboard, and monitor to the PC. Clear CMOS. You may have a cheap PSU or defective MB.
oabeywon
07-25-2009 12:54 PM (958 days ago)
thank you.im good
Kantucki
07-25-2009 01:16 PM (958 days ago)
Nice work RoyalSerpent.
RoyalSerpent
07-25-2009 08:09 PM (958 days ago)
No problemo!
aCoonradt
08-05-2009 11:28 PM (947 days ago)
Will this
PSU fit inside the case of the HP Pavilion p1620t desktop?
I've heard from a proffesional review that since this is a relatively small PSU, it should fit into most any case.
I've also heard that a lot of HP's use custom power supplies, that may cause problems fitting in new 3rd Party PSUs, and also that HP's may not recognize those custom PSU's even if they do fit.
RoyalSerpent
08-06-2009 06:17 AM (946 days ago)
Measure the old unit and compare with the new replacement.
Wetbed0
10-30-2009 01:42 PM (861 days ago)
I have a a1010y and the fan on the power supply is going bad so I got an ultra lsp 750.
The power supply does not work in my computer.
The power supply works fine in my brothers home built computer so what could be wrong?
Alaska99801
12-15-2009 04:25 PM (815 days ago)
I will post a link from Antec, one of the best power supplies for the PC. Here you can (close enough) find out, truly, what your power requirements are. It does not matter what the video card, etc., says you need. It is what that card draws from the system.
Once you put all things you have together on this site, you will get a pretty accurate count of your true power requirements. For example, I have a PSU rated at 300 Watts max. So to save power, I have taken out the modem card, the network card, etc. since I do not use them. They still draw power while inserted in the slot.
I have a Quad Core Q6600 CPU (dual or quad counts as a single socket), GeForce 9800 GT video card, 15 card reader, I am using 2 USB ports all the time (it is not how many you have. It's how many are being used) 1 SATA HD, 1 DVD-RW/CD/RW combo, there is 1 fan in the system ( CPU), ATX motherboard, 4 sticks of memory ( how many, not how many GB you have). Leave recommended settings alone.
My wattage requirement for my set up is 243 watts. Even though the video card says that I need a PSU of 400 watts, it has been running fine and cool for over 6 months.
http://www.antec.outervision.com/PSUEngine
Tsnor
12-28-2009 02:11 PM (802 days ago)
RE: "Since each 6-pin GPU power plug is rated up to 75W, a GPU with dual power plug will not draw more than 150W. "
No. the pcie slot has 75 watts, the two connectors have 75 each for 150, total for card = 225 max.
Wikipedia is a good source for gpu power consumption. As is tomshardware and www.xbitlabs.com
Sparty0n
01-05-2010 02:16 PM (794 days ago)
I have this
HP computer and I was wondering if I needed to find a PSU with 4 PCIe connectors or something else. I was happy to hear that most ATX PSUs fit into HP Micro ATX cases, although, I plan on getting a larger case for better airflow. Thanks for your help.
old_geekster
01-05-2010 02:54 PM (794 days ago)
SO, from what I know about PSU's, the most PCI-E connectors available are two; 1 X 6-pin and 1 X 6+2-pin). The second one is for video cards the require an 8-pin connector. Here is a
product page for OCZ's GameXStream PSU. Scroll down the page and read the specs for the connectors.
For future reference, it would be better is you started your own thread. You will normally get a better response.
elchucko
01-11-2010 01:15 PM (788 days ago)
I've read the posts and a lot of good info .Question is which power supply(s) have/has the exact cable configuration so I can replace my PC power supply (plug & play)? What I want to do is install a 650w PS in my desktop. I've added 2GB memory, a Personal Media drive, a BluRay/DVD player and an additional 640GB disk drive. I plan to add an audio card and possibly other items. My 350w supply I believe is not rated for such a load. Thank you
eamonng
01-13-2010 04:38 AM (786 days ago)
I looking to update my power supply. The HP desktop is about 5 years old and it is a DC5100 SFF. I have searched the web and cannot find out if it is an ATX PSU.
Kind regards.
erico
01-13-2010 06:54 AM (786 days ago)
SilverWhiskers wrote:
Very Interesting comments! I will check inside the case to make sure. Do you know anything about the new TiVo style TV tuners? My NEW d5200t came with the new and expensive TV tuner card that allows forward and reverse and other options. HP simply added a SECOND tuner card in the desktop.
Turning it on gives you a picture. The person on TV will say one or two words and it suddenly becomes pixelated. In another moment or so the pixelation spreads all over the screen with a frozen picture and audio. In another moment the pixelation suddenly gives way to bright yellow colors all over the screen.
In another moment it begins all over again with a picture and a word or two.
I have calibrated the digital antenna using Windows Media Player. It tells me the digital antenna is working well.
Things I have noticed:
OUT OF THE BOX: Device Manager showed a conflict with the two tuner cards. Using the Device Manager to disable one card failed to fix the problem. Switching to the other card made no difference.
Tech service keeps telling me to run recovery. I have a total of 12 hours on this computer. Eleven of these hours was in four HP tech service calls where they insist on taking remote control. From the time you dial the phone until the time an HP live human takes control of your computer is one hour.
I had a case manager I don't know call me and he said I had too many calls to tech service. He wanted to buy it back so I could go buy another brand of computer. My previous case manager would have never spoken to me that way and to be honest I was shocked.
Thanks for the good advice!
Time will tell I guess,
SilverWhiskers
Had you considered manually changing the IRQ on one of the tuner cards to avoid the conflict? Did the case managers already try that?
regards,
erico
CGSDR
01-18-2010 01:51 AM (781 days ago)
Hello, I'm a new user to this forum, and I found this topic from the main pages and I think it fit my question, and my question is: I'd to upgrade my VGA from ATI Radeon X850 XT to either ATIRadeon X1950 or ATI Radeon X1650, but my power supply is about 400W, and my question is which power supply do i have to buy? and how to install them? oh and my pc I'm using is HP Media Centre PC, but I have upgrade some of its hardware about 3 years ago, and now I'd to upgrade the VGA, so could anyone please answer or point out a tips which to buy?Thanks
James L Chea
retiredhpwalt
02-01-2010 07:55 AM (767 days ago)
I have a Slimline s5300z and you say your info is good for all except the Slimline. Does that mean I'm screwed or is there another way I can increase the PSU in my Slimline?
milesrf
02-05-2010 08:00 PM (763 days ago)
I have a d5200t, and want to increase its ability for running GPUGRID by upgrading the GPU, and possibly installing more than one of them. GPUGRID recommends a GTX275 or higher GPU card (currently Nvidia-based only). What PSU should I pick to handle at least one GTX275? How many GTX275 cards could it handle? Would any cooling improvements also be needed?
Assume that I run BOINC projects on both my current GPU and all four CPU cores nearly all the time, and have very little interest in games.
Q9650 @3.00 GHz
8 GB memory
Also, is it practical to install a higher rated PSU in my SR5125CL to allow it to use the 9800 GT GPU card now in the d5200t? If so, would the one now in the d5200t fit, and would any cooling improvements be needed?
lowelife101
03-10-2010 01:05 PM (730 days ago)
i have a p6013 desktop and i've just bought a new graphics card for it and i want to buy a new psu as well, however i am not sure which model PSU to buy. It need's to be able to power the machine plus an Ati Radeon 5750. I know what i'm doing with graphics cards (having bought them before) but having never bought a psu i'm abit out of my depth.
http://www.dcs-online.biz/shop/conditions.php is the store i'll be buying my stuff from, maybe you guy's could pick something out from their catalogue ( it's only a bus ride into town so i'll be able to pick it up tomorrow)
erico
03-11-2010 01:37 AM (729 days ago)
retiredhpwalt wrote:
I have a Slimline s5300z and you say your info is good for all except the Slimline. Does that mean I'm screwed or is there another way I can increase the PSU in my Slimline?
The downside of slimline PCs is that there are very few upgrades available for the PSU. All available upgrade PSUs on the market limit the addition of a graphics card to those not requiring >@250-300W and PCIe six pin connectors.
Best regards,
erico
kaliber
03-12-2010 06:36 AM (728 days ago)
Hi all.
I have an HP Pavillon desktop p6230it. I've found that the power supply is only a 300W. I have added a blu ray recorder, a WD 2TB additional HD, i have also upgraded the CPU from I5 to I7 850 and i am planning to upgrade my Video card also to an Nvidia GTX 280 (from a gt220).
I have tried to cantact the HP service, they told me that i absolutely need to uograde my power supply but no oe was able to suggest me a model.
Can anybody tell be what kind of model I can fit in my desktop PC?
Thank You in adance!!!
erico
03-12-2010 06:54 AM (728 days ago)
An ATX psu from Corsair or OCZ would be just fine. I will look back later to suggest a few models. I have to go shopping now.
seeya,
erico
kaliber
03-12-2010 07:00 AM (728 days ago)
Thank You very much Erico!!
I keep in touch with the forum waiting for your suggestions and.............have a nice shopping!!!!
igorko9
03-12-2010 09:47 AM (728 days ago)
Owner of Pavilion.
HP Intel Desktop based P.C.
P.C is in warranty.
Power supply crashed. 300 Watts.Cost 46 US Dollars.Big price.
I am calling it "green P.C"
Maybe i am try to use 200 Watts or less PS-not important how long your P.C run on that...
And problems with repair-change power supply with new ?-It is big problem.
Buy Pavilion P.C desktop in Slovakia.
I am reccomend it.
And HP Total Care?
No way to use it in Slovak language.
If you have O.S based in your own language.
Technicians in HP know why.
No? Forget what you read.
Thanks.
erico
03-12-2010 02:06 PM (728 days ago)
kaliber wrote:
Thank You very much Erico!!
I keep in touch with the forum waiting for your suggestions and.............have a nice shopping!!!!
Hi,
It was time to replace the clothes dryer. €450,00 and bought a 22" HD monitor.
Corsair has a nice PSU configurator. Here are the
results with your PC info plugged in. The CMPSU-550VX would be a good choice.
OCZ PSU
selection chart.
Best regards,
erico
kaliber
03-12-2010 02:26 PM (728 days ago)
welcome back Erico. You had a really nice shopping...I see!!
Well. I've taken a look at the links you gave me.
I will proceed straight away and buy that 550VX from Corsair.
Looking at the other link regarding selection chart, I've noted that OCZ suggest a 600W psu.
Dont wanna stressing you but as I think I've finally found someone that knows very well HP products, i wanna be sure to avoid mistakes.
My actual configuration (on a p6230it basis):
Intel I7 860 cpu
8 Gb ram
1 HDD 1Tb wd10eads
1 HDD 2Tb wd20eads
1 DVD/RW
1 BD/RW
1 video card Geforce GT220 (but the new PSU will arrive together with a NEW GTX 285 !!!)
Am I Ok with the 550VX or.......
Thank again!!!!
Alberto
erico
03-13-2010 05:56 AM (727 days ago)
kaliber wrote:
welcome back Erico. You had a really nice shopping...I see!!
Well. I've taken a look at the links you gave me.
I will proceed straight away and buy that 550VX from Corsair.
Looking at the other link regarding selection chart, I've noted that OCZ suggest a 600W psu.
Dont wanna stressing you but as I think I've finally found someone that knows very well HP products, i wanna be sure to avoid mistakes.
My actual configuration (on a p6230it basis):
Intel I7 860 cpu
8 Gb ram
1 HDD 1Tb wd10eads
1 HDD 2Tb wd20eads
1 DVD/RW
1 BD/RW
1 video card Geforce GT220 (but the new PSU will arrive together with a NEW GTX 285 !!!)
Am I Ok with the 550VX or.......
Thank again!!!!
Alberto
Yep. The wife and I decided to bite the bullet and get a Bosch drier this time. It should be good for 10-15 years. We had a bad feeling that our Zanussi would crap out on us this weekend. It was making awful bearing sounds.
I would go with the OCZ 600W recommendation.The
OCZ ModXStream Pro 600 W will handle your system without any problems. OCZ states and I know from experience that they have the best warranty in the industry. OCZ makes some of the top of the line PSU's. Power&PC Cooling is also owned by OCZ. Corsair rounds out the top three power supply maker in the industry.
Best regards,
erico
kaliber
03-13-2010 07:00 AM (727 days ago)
erico wrote:
Yep. The wife and I decided to bite the bullet and get a Bosch drier this time. It should be good for 10-15 years. We had a bad feeling that our Zanussi would crap out on us this weekend. It was making awful bearing sounds.
GREAT BUY Erico. Me and my wife we have the Boch WAS 24722 (Logixx8 series) since 1 year and we are really happy with it!! A great wash and drie machine
I would go with the OCZ 600W recommendation.The OCZ ModXStream Pro 600 W will handle your system without any problems. OCZ states and I know from experience that they have the best warranty in the industry. OCZ makes some of the top of the line PSU's. Power&PC Cooling is also owned by OCZ. Corsair rounds out the top three power supply maker in the industry.
Best regards,
erico
I have already proceeded with the order (both PSU and Nvidia Card!!!!
Only one more question:
The 8 pins PCI express connector and the 6+2 pins PCI connector are the same thing isn't it??
because on one model is stated as 8 pins and on the other is 6+2, but anyway the image is the same.
This question because the new video card requires 2 6 pins connectors.....
Thank You again.
erico
03-13-2010 09:22 AM (727 days ago)
kaliber wrote:
erico wrote:
Yep. The wife and I decided to bite the bullet and get a Bosch drier this time. It should be good for 10-15 years. We had a bad feeling that our Zanussi would crap out on us this weekend. It was making awful bearing sounds.
GREAT BUY Erico. Me and my wife we have the Boch WAS 24722 (Logixx8 series) since 1 year and we are really happy with it!! A great wash and drie machine
I would go with the OCZ 600W recommendation.The OCZ ModXStream Pro 600 W will handle your system without any problems. OCZ states and I know from experience that they have the best warranty in the industry. OCZ makes some of the top of the line PSU's. Power&PC Cooling is also owned by OCZ. Corsair rounds out the top three power supply maker in the industry.
Best regards,
erico
I have already proceeded with the order (both PSU and Nvidia Card!!!!
Only one more question:
The 8 pins PCI express connector and the 6+2 pins PCI connector are the same thing isn't it??
because on one model is stated as 8 pins and on the other is 6+2, but anyway the image is the same.
This question because the new video card requires 2 6 pins connectors.....
Thank You again.
Hi,
The 6+2 pin connector can be used just like the 6 pin connector. It has downward compatibility with the 6-pin PCIe power connector.
Best regards,
erico
erico
03-13-2010 09:23 AM (727 days ago)
kaliber
03-13-2010 01:38 PM (727 days ago)
Again Thank You Erico!!
When I receive Psu and Video card, I will post here the results!!!!
iamchaos
04-25-2010 08:00 PM (684 days ago)
Hey guys, sorry for this newb-ish question, but i've never had to deal with replacing a power supply before. Also, this is my first HP.
Recently I ordered an HP Pavilion Elite 180t, and am a bit concerned with the power supply its shipping with (460w). As of right now I plan on buying a new 650w supply. My question is this: Is there any problem with using another brand's power supply with an HP computer? I was leaning towards a Corsair (
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005&cm_re=Corsair_-_650W-_-17-139-005-_-... ).
Again, I don't know anything on this subject. Will I encounter any problems fitting it in the case? Will it function properly? Does the wiring vary? I'd greatly appreciate any input you all are willing to give.
Kantucki
04-26-2010 12:16 AM (683 days ago)
You should have no trouble with that power supply fitting in your HP. I put a
Corsair 550watt PS in my HP. Fit like a glove. No issues since installing. Just follow the instructions and mark your wires and connections when you uninstall the old one.
iamchaos
04-26-2010 08:03 AM (683 days ago)
@Kantucki
Thanks a lot. Knowing that clears up my skepticism.
Kantucki
04-26-2010 11:52 PM (683 days ago)
You are welcome.
smn_1010
05-21-2010 11:58 PM (658 days ago)
hi, howcome every one is saying any psu will fit and work perfectly with all HP PCs, i have a HP COMPAQ 8000 elite convertible minitower and the mobo is a lot different from any other mobo and a regular PSU won't work, it not a matter of physically fitting the PSU in the case, it a amatter of different cabling,
1- the mobo does not have the standard 24 or 20+4 pin for main power, instead it used one that resembles a 6 pin PCI express cable.
2- there is this wierd cable that i just cannot identify, nor can anyone on the internet, the label on the mobo says it is "CMD PWR" and it has 6 pins and the only thing it looks like, is the ancient 6 pin aux cable that even my old P4 PC does not use!!
and the PC won't start without it being plugged in, it just beeps and shows red lights.
3- all the peripherals (HDD and DVD) are drawing their power from the mobo and not the PSU!!
how come a new PC does not support standard wiring and cables and how am i supposed to replace the PSU? i am very frustrated with it being sooo different. and since i am in a country with "limited" HP support, which means i will not find matching cables if they are actually proprietary cables designed only for that PC, the only place i could get help is from you guys.
tigger_jasper
05-29-2010 03:24 AM (650 days ago)
Can't seem to find any reference but hope someone can help me - just got a dc5750 SFF pc 2nd hand on a good deal. The prob I now have is the micro atx psu appears to be 240W rated. It has integrated graphics at the moment, and I want to install a low profile pci-e graphics card - however, all the cards I find want a minimum 300W supply! Anyone any experience on upgrading the psu for small form factors (this is my 1st lol), or suggestions on alternate graphics solutions?
slnewett
06-17-2010 05:06 AM (631 days ago)
Same problem here with a 8100 Elite Convertible MiniTower.
Need a PS upgrade that also has 2 PCI-e 6-pin cables for a graphics card upgrade.
If these systems can't have PS upgrades - they are just "systems of potential emptiness"....! Especially when they have a 320W PS.
smn_1010 wrote:
hi, howcome every one is saying any psu will fit and work perfectly with all HP PCs, i have a HP COMPAQ 8000 elite convertible minitower and the mobo is a lot different from any other mobo and a regular PSU won't work, it not a matter of physically fitting the PSU in the case, it a amatter of different cabling,
1- the mobo does not have the standard 24 or 20+4 pin for main power, instead it used one that resembles a 6 pin PCI express cable.
2- there is this wierd cable that i just cannot identify, nor can anyone on the internet, the label on the mobo says it is "CMD PWR" and it has 6 pins and the only thing it looks like, is the ancient 6 pin aux cable that even my old P4 PC does not use!!
and the PC won't start without it being plugged in, it just beeps and shows red lights.
3- all the peripherals (HDD and DVD) are drawing their power from the mobo and not the PSU!!
how come a new PC does not support standard wiring and cables and how am i supposed to replace the PSU? i am very frustrated with it being sooo different. and since i am in a country with "limited" HP support, which means i will not find matching cables if they are actually proprietary cables designed only for that PC, the only place i could get help is from you guys.
Powerlift
07-15-2010 08:53 AM (603 days ago)
I've had an HP Pavilion Media Center M8430f since April of '08. I've finally got to the point that I need to upgrade to run newer games because of the now dated Geforce 8500 GT. I'm looking to add an NVIDIA GTX 470 but my understanding is that the power supply in my PC is only in the 300w range and this card needs 550w. The first post here is very informative and I've found some ATX PSUs in the 500-600w range on newegg (only 4 total) but it looks like they are all cheap models with hit-or-miss reviews. Any thoughts on these PSUs?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007657%20600013999%20600014021&IsNode...
Big_Dave
07-15-2010 10:17 AM (603 days ago)
Powerlift,
Look for a
OCZ and chose a modular model. Look at the 12+ volt amperage needed by the 470 and chose a PSU that can support that need. You might consider the EVGA NVIDIA 460 1GB with External Exhaust to help deal with the heat being generated by a high wattage video card.
Powerlift
07-15-2010 11:33 AM (603 days ago)
Big_Dave
07-15-2010 02:39 PM (603 days ago)
Powerlift,
That PSU should work just fine.
Powerlift
07-15-2010 05:29 PM (603 days ago)
Thanks for the help. I know the OCZs were cheaper but the reviews on this unit are good.
With a serious card like this hopefully I can just upgrade to the best processor this board can use (Q9650) and 8GB of DDR3 RAM next year and be good for a few years again.
Big_Dave
07-16-2010 09:23 AM (602 days ago)
Powerlift,
A bit of caution. Your new potential video card and PSU is going to generate more heat so be prepared to deal with that issue. I typically like to see lower wattage video cards in the smallish HP mini-towers as heat has a tendency to shorten the life of the electronic components.
dcrutgers
07-20-2010 05:41 AM (598 days ago)
Big_Dave
07-20-2010 03:43 PM (598 days ago)
dcrutgers,
The best thing to do is to open open up your PC and do some measuring. The 460 length wise should fit but it's a double wide card so the slot next adjacent to the PCI-E x16 needs to be open.
You might run into a heat issue with the smallish HP mini-tower cabinet so be prepared to deal with it.
Otherwise, good choices.
dcrutgers
07-21-2010 07:51 AM (597 days ago)
Thanks, I haven't received the computer yet, but thanks for getting back to me. Happy to hear that I shouldn't have any problems fitting the PSU and the video card. As for the heat issue, anybody else have experience with this setup and heat?
Thanks!
Kantucki
07-21-2010 08:33 AM (597 days ago)
I play lots of games like Crysis, COD, BBC. My upgrade was almost identical to yours and I've had no heat issues.
dcrutgers
07-21-2010 10:13 AM (597 days ago)
Thanks, that's good to know. I needed this rig to play Bad company 2 on high! lol
velesot365
07-26-2010 12:38 PM (592 days ago)
Big_Dave
07-26-2010 02:43 PM (592 days ago)
velesot365,
The safest way to know for sure is to open up your PC and do some measuring. Measure the dimensions of your existing power supply. The standard ATX PSU is 5.9" by 5.5" by 3.4" give or take a few of tenths of an inch. Do the same around the PCI-E x16 slot. The GTX 460 is a double wide card so the slot next the card must be open. The GTX 460 is 8.25" long so make sure that length is OK.
Corsair is a good brand.:smileyhappy:
velesot365
07-26-2010 03:04 PM (592 days ago)
Thanx. one further question. I know for sure i only have 1 PCI-E x16 slot. Does that mean I cant use the GTX460 since its a double?
Big_Dave
07-26-2010 03:09 PM (592 days ago)
The GTX 460 only takes one slot but it's double wide in width going towards the next slot. All of the better video cards are double wide.
velesot365
07-26-2010 03:20 PM (592 days ago)
Ah I see I see. That makes more sense. I'm pretty sure I have enough room as I have a after market vid. card in there now and it has plaenty of room around it. There really is alot of space in the case since I have room to put in another dvd-drive, and 2 of the smaller floppy type drives. I just like to make sure...thanks for the measurements that will come in handy!
lookasgti
07-29-2010 11:19 AM (589 days ago)
hello.i have a pavillion a6130.gr and i want to buy a power suply.my question is what size should it be(wide X length X height)?thank you.
Big_Dave
07-29-2010 12:36 PM (589 days ago)
lookasgti,
You should open up your PC and measure the physical dimensions of your power supply. Here is a list of things to consider:
- Specifications
- Total wattage - important
- 12+ volt amperage rating - important
- Modular - not mandatory but I like the flexibility
- Warranty
- Efficiency rating
- Cost
- Physical size -- standard ATX PSU is 5.5" by 5.9" by 3.4" give or take a few tenths
www.newegg.com has lots of PSUs choices. Corsair, OCZ, Rosewill, Thermaltake.....
RNMike78
08-01-2010 01:43 PM (586 days ago)
I found this PSU and successfully installed it in my HP p6510f: Corsair CMPSU-550VX 550-Watt VX Series 80 Plus Certified Power Supply It was very easy, thank you CherylG for the great advice!!!! The dimensions were perfect for the Bestec OEM PSU I removed (5.9" W (150mm) X 3.4" H (86mm) X 5.5" L (140 mm). It fit perfectly and even snapped into the aluminum retainers, however, the bracket on the PSR that the power cord plugs into is about 1 mm too long, which pushes the aluminum case out minimally. However, all 4 screws securely hold the PSU in place. The Corsair VX is awesome.... Very easy and tidy cable management. I was concerned about increased CPU temps given the 550W PSU and less air flow due to increased cables. However, the CPU temps are stable, without any change from prior to installation. Soon Ill be installing the Visiontek Radeon HD4670 and a Zalman CPU cooler....
urielfalconi
08-02-2010 05:17 PM (585 days ago)
I have a a6554f and want to upgrade videocard to a Xfx Ati Radeon Hd5750 1gb Gddr5 128bits
this card needs at least 500 watts i think, do i need to upgrade my PSU also? or my a6554f supports
this video card?
Big_Dave
08-02-2010 05:37 PM (585 days ago)
urielfalconi,
Please see your other post.
GGTexas
08-03-2010 01:45 PM (584 days ago)
I've been reading the postings here as well as your replies. SInce you seem knowledgeable re: power supplies let me ask you one quick general question. I will be purchasing an HP p6347c factory refurbished tower only. It comes with a standard 300W PSU. In general, I should be able to replace this with any good quality 450-500W PSU to accommodate a better graphics card, correct? There should be no motherboard issues as far as compatibility? It ships with an AMD Foxconn H-RS780-uATX motherboard. Just want to make sure I can easily upgrade the PSU. Many thanks.
Big_Dave
08-03-2010 01:59 PM (584 days ago)
GGTexas,
The standard ATX power supply should fit. You can see what to look for in my above post. Refurbished means that PC was returned for some reason. Sometimes HP will do some hard wired piggy back connections on a standard cable. You might need an adapter or two depending on the internal wiring to get some of the minor front panel devices working.
Look over the p6347c
motherboard so you know what connections are needed (4 pin ATX, 24 pin, etc..)
Greek2me
08-08-2010 10:36 PM (579 days ago)
My son has a year old p6150t and wanted to upgrade the video card to an ATI/Radeon HD5750. This required an upgraded power supply. He chose a Corsair TX750W. We installed the card and the power supply and now the machine will not turn on. When you press the button the fans spin a revolution or two and that is it. A question has been raised as to wether or not the monther board is compatible with ATX 2.01 or higher. Any ideas?
Thank you.
Big_Dave
08-09-2010 10:53 AM (578 days ago)
Greek2me,
Did you try powering up the PC without the new graphics card installed? Corsair is one of the better made power supplies.
trustin356
08-11-2010 07:41 AM (576 days ago)
I purchased and installed a new power supply/fan several months ago and the fan is quite noisy. Is there a way to adjust the fan so the noise isn't so bad??
Big_Dave
08-11-2010 03:00 PM (576 days ago)
Trustin356,
What model HP PC are you using? You might need a bios update or some bios have a fan speed function.
rdopso
08-23-2010 08:14 PM (564 days ago)
I ran my system through the power calculator that someone posted; and for the system below the calculator estimator indicated max power use of 530 W.
HP Pavilion Elite HPE 180t
Intel quad-core 2.8Mhz i7 CPU
12 G of RAM
2 internal 1T WD Caviar Black HDDs and one external 1T Caviar black HDD
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 graphics card with 1 G of memory
2 optical drives and a few USB peripherals
mother board sound and networking are used
computer is mainly used for photo and video editing
I very recently replaced the OE 430 W power supply in my computer above with a Corsair TX650W unit to handle my current and likely future system upgrades. The 650W Corsair PSU is the same size as the OE PSU and uses the same attaching points (printed info on the Corsair box stated the TX650W was a fair bit larger than the HP OE unit, but that was an error -- however, the 750W Corsair PSU is larger and may not fit the HP case). The Corsair 650W unit dropped right in with no problem. The Corsair appears to be a very high quality unit and is actually quieter than the already quiet 430W OE PSU, and the only minor downside to the installation was all the extra unneeded power wires attached to the Corsair PSU which must be tucked into the smallish HP case -- but they do all fit with no real problem. The Corsair 650W PSU may be a bit of overkill for my current computer system, but I wanted the extra headroom to accomodate future expansion of my system.
Kantucki
08-24-2010 12:10 AM (563 days ago)
You can't get a better built power supply for an upgrade than a Corsair IMO . Even the packaging is high quality.
rdopso
08-24-2010 09:22 AM (563 days ago)
Yes, I had to LOL when I opened the box and found the PSU enclosed in a black cloth bag with a pull string -- now that is high quality packaging for a power supply.
Ricax
09-02-2010 05:04 PM (554 days ago)
hey guys,
I was reading through the older posts and I'm hoping someone can help me. I have an hp d5000z with an AMD Phenom 9750 quad core at 2.4GHz, 3GB of RAM, and a 1GB nVidia 9800GT video card. Last week, the video card stopped working and i replaced it with the PNY version of the same card.
My question is, do I have to replace the power supply? After reading some of the posts of potential mis-labeling of the power supplies, I'm worried I'll damage my PC in some way. I'm running nVidia's system monitor program and when my PC is idling, the temperature is around 48 deg C. When playing Starcraft 2, it tops out around 62 deg C.
Should I be worried or is my PC okay?
RNMike78
09-02-2010 06:15 PM (554 days ago)
IMO you can never go wrong replacing an OEM PSU with after-market. My favorite is the Corsair line, I have two (VX550 and TX650) and they are of exceptional quality.
In terms of the CPU temps however, I would try a CPU cooler, like Corsair's H50 (~$80) or their newest model the H70 (~$100). I have the H70 and it is fantastic, another great Corsair product. It keeps my CPU sub-42 deg C even at max load using four cores.
But Zalman makes great CPU coolers too. I have their 9700LED in my other system, also quad core AMD.
You might want to think about moving to a new tower with more airflow options (ie, fans) and better cable management.
rdopso
09-02-2010 06:53 PM (554 days ago)
Ricax
That system temp sould be unlikely to become an issue from what I read, but I suggest you google something like "max cpu temperature for quad-core AMD". From info I have re the Intel quad-core i7 in my HP, even 75C is not a concern for that chip.
I am not familiar with the power supply in your computer, so cannot respond to that query, but a lot would depend on the max power draw of the specific NVIDIA graphics card you are running; but with the relatively small amount of RAM you have I suspect you are likely OK unless you are getting unexplained crashes when running gaming or other CPU intensive software.
megamoz
09-07-2010 04:11 PM (549 days ago)
Hello everyone,
I'm not sure if the question I have really fits the topic, sorry, if not. But I'd really appreciate your answers. Although the question is very simple, even the HP Tech support doesn't have the right answer.
Cut to the chest: I'm planning to buy a Pavilion Elite HPE-390t series customized desktop. Since I'll be using it mostly outside the US (in Spain) I'd like to know if the power supply of that computer has a voltage toggle switch in the power supply to change the power from 120 to 220 V. That information is missing in every manual I've read.
Well, that's it.
Thank you all in advance.
Big_Dave
09-07-2010 05:47 PM (549 days ago)
The
typical 460 watt PSU in the newer HP models is dual voltage. My e9280t system (bought in Dec.) has a 460 watt PSU and is spec'd for dual voltage. You'll see the same for the monitors. You will need adapter plugs.
RNMike78
09-07-2010 06:12 PM (549 days ago)
The max CPU temps which will cause auto-shutdown are 90 deg celsius. However, for prolonged lifespan and CPU effectiveness nowhere near this temp should be approached. Ideal temps would therefore be sub-50 deg C. From The AMD forums (
http://forums.amd.com/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=11&threadid=25648) AMD state the max operating temp for their XP CPUs is 85C. Some earlier CPUS were 90C, but only a few. Stick with 85C. 85C is the Internal Fry Temp. If the temperature inside the CPU goes above 85C you CPU is increasingly likely to die. Permanently. Most motherboard CPU temp sensors report the Surface temp. The Surface Temp is typically around 10C lower than the Internal CPU Temp under Full Load conditions. So: Internal Fry Temp = 85C Surface Fry Temp = 75C The Error Free Temp is not the same as the Fry Temp. It will vary from CPU to CPU, but typically it's 20C below the Fry Temp, i.e. Interenal Error Free Temp = 65C Surface Error Free Temp = 55C If you overclock your machine the Error Free Temp falls - i.e. your CPU has to run cooler in order to remain stable.
DeniseM-Toronto
09-12-2010 01:29 AM (544 days ago)
Royal Serpent, could you look at my thread on the p6503f, please? I'm concerned about the psu in the p6503f because the system has a Radeon HD 5450 in it which AMD says needs at least a 400w psu, but the p6503f has only a 250w psu.
Someone suggested that according to the Antec power calculator, my p6503f has more than adequate room. But when I entered the parts, it came very close under or over 250w. That closeness makes me uncomfortable.
I suspect the HP marketing people added the HD 5450 but somehow missed running that by the engineering/technical people, so the psu didn't get bumped up.
I'm considering replacing the HP psu with a Corsair 650w psu.
Denise Moore
RNMike78
09-12-2010 11:16 AM (544 days ago)
Denise,
Royal Serpent would be the best to answer specifics; but if I may offer anecdotal advice....
I purchased a Radeon HD5770 and specifically knew that I needed to replace the PSU. A 250W PSU is generally considered sufficient to power standard MOBOs with OEM specs. But adding aftermarket GPUs, additional HDDs, increasing RAM, etc. require wattage in the 400W+ range from research I have done.
I chose Corsair at the advice of Cheryl G and Big Dave. Although Antec is great too. Be mindful of the dimensions.
The Corsair VX550 was a perfect fit for my p6510f; and I got a TX650 for my Cooler Master tower.
I am fond of the Corsair line so far... I also have the Dominator 8GB RAM and H70 liquid cooler. Corsair makes high quality products.
The PSU replacement is very straightforward. Cheryl suggested my first time I leave the OEM PSU umbilicals plugged into the board and replace them 1:1. Good luck!!!
elcarimw
09-16-2010 05:45 AM (540 days ago)
I have a 3 year old HP m9300t, how do I search the computer to see what type of power supply unit it has? I see 20 pin and 20=4 pin units on the market and do not know what the difference is. I need to rplace the PSU to work with a new video card after the old one crashed.
rdopso
09-16-2010 09:18 AM (540 days ago)
I am not familiar with the HP computer you have, and I do not feel technically comfortable recommending anything specific re a PSU for it; however, if you are not adverse to opening your case and checking out the tech info on your current PSU, I suggest you do that first -- and also measure the size of both the current PSU and the full size of the area available within your computer for an ugraded PSU. With that info in hand, a couple of the main points to keep in mind are of course the rated power of the PSU you now have vs what you believe you will need for the upgraded graphics adapter (and any other peripherals you might add in the future), and also the dimensions of the current power supply and one that you may wish to upgrade to. I believe the Corsair PSUs are a high quality product, and incredibly quiet in operation, but make sure if you consider one that it has all the correct power connectors for your computer (e.g., PSUs for the newer computers often will have power connnectors for HDDs and optical drives that are all SATA and they may not be compatible with your current computer, although I believe one can get adapter cables that will convert SATA power connectors to the older style). And there are other compatibility issues to consider as well. You should be able to get good feedback re your questions here from those who are far more qualified than me if you provide more specifics re your current system. Good luck.
darkaria
10-11-2010 05:53 PM (515 days ago)
Hello, I need help with selecting a PSU. I have a HPE-170T with a 460W PSU. I am wanting to upgrade to a Geforce 460gtx.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127510 However the minimum PSU for the card is 450W with 12v 24A rail. The dimensions, if I have them right for the 460W is: W 5 7/8" H 3 3/16" L 5 1/4" I may be off a few on mesurment, but I can not seem to be able to find a power supply that will fit the case and run the Geforce 460gtx.
The reason I chose this desigin of card is because of a heatsink on the motherboard is raised to high to allow a normal brick 2 slot video card. The cyclone heat sink gives it room.
Motherboard Pic (It's the silver heatsink at the low right of the motherboard pic)
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c02014355&tmp_track_link=ot_faqs/top_issues/en_u...
DjPhaze
10-15-2010 12:29 AM (511 days ago)
i really need some help on choosing a higher wattage power supply. i have a...
HP Pavilion Elite HPE-350t PC
• Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit
• Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-860 quad-core processor [2.8GHz, 1MB L2 + 8MB shared L3 cache]
• FREE UPGRADE! 8GB DDR3-1333MHz SDRAM [4 DIMMs] from 6GB
• FREE UPGRADE! 1TB 7200 rpm SATA 3Gb/s hard drive from 640GB
• Microsoft Office Starter 2010
• Norton Internet Security(TM) 2010 - 15 month
• 512MB ATI Radeon HD 5450 [DVI, HDMI, VGA adap
My reason for the more wattage power supply is because i would like to buy a nice video card. Most of them have minimum power supply requirements. i have a 300 watt psu. I was wondering if i can get some help choosing a psu with atleast 500watts. Any help would be much appreciated.
rdopso
10-15-2010 11:50 AM (511 days ago)
I do not know if the case supplied with your later model HP computer is the same as the one for my HP Pavilion Elite HPE 180t, but I suspect it is; and if so, the very high quality and incredibly quiet Corsair TX650W 650-watt PSU will fit and provide all the power you will need for a high-end single-graphics card upgrade. I am running the Corsair above with my system which is similar to yours except I have 12 GB of RAM, three 1-T HDDs, 2 BD optical drives, and a single NVIDIA GeForce GTX-260 graphics card.
DjPhaze
10-15-2010 07:52 PM (511 days ago)
im thinking of getting this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006 The dimensions of my bestec power supply unit is 6,5.5,3.5 Im trying to find out if this Corsair will fit. i beleive these are the dimensions of the corsair...3.40" Height x 5.90" Width x 5.50" Depth. please let me know. thanks!
rdopso
10-15-2010 09:22 PM (511 days ago)
The dimensions of the Corsair PSUs that have been mentioned here are (according to the User's Manual for my Corsair PSU) as follows; althought the dimensions on the shipping box for my TX650W are shown as the W and L being the same at 5.9" which I believe is incorrect -- I believe the correct dimensions for the TX650W are those shown below.
TX650W is 5.9" (W), 3.4" (H), and 5.5" (L) -- (150mm x 86mm x 150mm)
TX750W is 5.9" (W), 3.4" (H), and 6.3" (L) -- (150mm x 86mm x 160mm)
By my measurements the 460-watt PSU that I replaced in my HP computer is 5.8" x 3.3" x 5.4"
The Corsair 750-watt PSU would not fit in my HP case, but the 650-watt Corsair does fit my case and is happily living there as I type this. The longest dimension of the original HP PSU and the Corsair replacent is actually what I would have termed the length, but they label it width, and I believe that longest dimension is why the Corsair 750-watt unit would not fit my HP case. I bought my TX650W at Best Buy for $104.99.
DjPhaze
10-15-2010 10:17 PM (511 days ago)
rdopso
10-16-2010 01:36 PM (510 days ago)
The specs for the Corsair TX650W in the link you provided shows dimensions of 5.9 (W), 3.4 (H), and 5.9 (L); which is what is shown on the box in which my Corsair 650 was shipped -- but as I stated in a previous email, the owner's manual for my 650 shows this specific model as having dimensions of 5.9 (W), 3.4 (H), and only 5.5 (L), so there is clearly a descrepency here that needs to be resolved before you will know if what you wish to purchase will fit your case. OK, you have now fully perked my curiosity so I will open my HP case and measure my TX650W to settle this once and for all -- stay tuned for late breaking news on this.
rdopso
10-16-2010 04:05 PM (510 days ago)
OK, the Corsair TX650W in my HP Pavilion Elite HPE 180t measures 5.9" (W), 3.4" (H), and 5.8" (L). That L measurement does come very close to matching the factory spec for L of 5.9". The L dimension is not critical in my HP case because there is at least another half inch of room in that direction within the case (but the mass of power wires coming out of the TX650W pretty much fills up that space), but the other dimensions are critical and any PSU larger that above would likely not fit. So, it appears the PSU of interest to you will fit your HP case if your case is the same as mine, and I believe it is.
Again, the PSU swap is not difficult so long as you know how to get into the HP case (only three screws need be removed to slide the plastic top back and off, and to slide the left side (as one is facing the back of the computer) metal side panel back and off. And the best way to make sure you get all power cables from the new PSU back on the MB and other related places correctly is to remove the old PSU from the case but keep all the power cables attached to the computer, and then to attach each of the new PSU power cables one at a time while you can check how and where each was attached from the old PSU (and be careful not to push on the MB cable connectors too hard when attaching them, and also be aware that some of the MB cables have a tiny release tab that must be pressed while gently but firmly pulling the connector off). It is usually best to not drink heavily until after you have finished the job and have successfully fired up the computer with the new PSU.
Richard Olsen
Green Valley, AZ
"retired and happy"
DjPhaze
10-16-2010 05:28 PM (510 days ago)
thank you for your help. It sounds like it will fit my PC. I think im going to take a picture of where the psu is at and maybe we can get a clear view and determine if indeed it will fit. But no matter what i still think due the the dimensions of the Corsair its gotta fit right? Unless it doesnt sit up the same way like my psu is in my comp i should be fine
DjPhaze
10-16-2010 06:54 PM (510 days ago)
rdopso
10-16-2010 09:43 PM (510 days ago)
DjPhaze wrote:
Here is a pic of my psu sitting in my computer. i have drawn the specs to see if the Corsair will fit.
[IMG]http://i53.tinypic.com/wnq7r.jpg[/IMG]
Below is a link to a photo of the Corsair TX650W in my HP computer which appears to have the same case layout as your HP computer, and the PSU is apparently in the same location and same orientation, except that your PSU apparently draws it's cooling air from inside the case while the Corsair draws outside cooling air from the opposite or top side of the PSU where it is not sucking hot air from inside the case (my case has ventilation slots and vents to allow the corsair PSU fan to draw outside cooling air through the PSU, and it always runs very cool and at a low and essentially silent fan speed). Likewise, my CPU cores all run relatively cool, as does my NVIDIA video card, even during long heavy-duty video rendering sessions.
http://miata-website.rdopso.com/images/Corsair%20PSU%20in%20my%20HP.jpg Another thing I think I notice in your computer case is that at least some of the drives use non-SATA power connectors, while all the drives in my computer are SATAs. That will not be a serious issue if that is the case because I believe the Corsair has both SATA and nonSATA power connectors -- and even if the Corsair should have only SATA power connectors for the drives (I believe it comes with 8 or more SATA power connectors), SATA to nonSATA conversion cable links are available and will take care of any apparent incompatibility with the power connectors for nonSATA drives.
My HP computer case is considerably more cluttered than yours due to having the very large NVIDIA GTX-260 graphics card, two internal HDDs and two internal optical drives as well as all the extra unused Corsair power cables which must be stuffed somewhere safe within the rather small computer case. Nonetheless, everything operates just fine with this compact setup powered by the Corsair PSU.
DjPhaze
10-16-2010 11:12 PM (510 days ago)
Sweet. so it looks promising with this corsair. im planning to buy it this coming thurs. Do you have any tips when removing my psu. i took 4 screws out that hold it to the tower but it still seems like its attached to something else. i didnt want to mess with it to much. So i put the screws back. Also if you have any tips when installing the new psu. Thanks!
rdopso
10-17-2010 08:21 AM (509 days ago)
DjPhaze wrote:
Sweet. so it looks promising with this corsair. im planning to buy it this coming thurs. Do you have any tips when removing my psu. i took 4 screws out that hold it to the tower but it still seems like its attached to something else. i didnt want to mess with it to much. So i put the screws back. Also if you have any tips when installing the new psu. Thanks!
I don't remember anything else holding the PSU in place other than the four screws you mention -- I suspect it's simply just a tight fit and the power cables on the PSU are probably holding it in place. I mentioned a few important tips in my previous email. The only other thing I can say is it would be a good idea to buy and install the new graphics card before you do the PSU swap; and mainly because I have two internal HDDs and two optical drives, I had to remove the cage holding the HDDs so I could attach the new SATA power cables, ditto for the opitcal drives -- but I doubt you will need to do that in your case since it appears you have only on each of those drives.
Don't sweat the PSU swap nor installation of the new graphics card because they are both no big deal so long as you make sure to get all the power cables correctly reconnected and you are gentle when working on and around the MB. And also be careful with connecting the SATA power cables (and all others as well -- especially those that plug into the MB and graphics card) because attempting to force them on upside down or backwards will often damage the connections on the drives, MB, or cards -- they are all designed to fit only one way so simply check the orientation of the connectors twice before connecting.
Big_Dave
10-17-2010 10:55 AM (509 days ago)
DjPhaze
10-17-2010 11:46 AM (509 days ago)
Thank you all very much for your help. i ll will keep you posted on how it goes. I plan to first buy an hd monitor then get the video card and finally the Psu.
capitol-m
11-22-2010 05:58 AM (473 days ago)
Hi, could someone please clarify for me:
I am about to purchase a 8100 elite convertible minitower, and i would like to upgrade the graphics card, i will need a new power supply for that, and i have heard two stories:
Either: nearly all supplies will fit, just measure the dimensions.
or: this motherboard has a specific connector, general ATX power supplies will NOT fit...
Which is it?
Big_Dave
11-22-2010 07:48 AM (473 days ago)
Capitol-m,
You should open up your PC and measure the physical dimensions of your power supply. Here is a list of things to consider:
- Specifications
- Total wattage - important
- 12+ volt amperage rating - important
- Modular - not mandatory but I like the flexibility
- Warranty
- i7 and SLI ready
- Efficiency rating
- Cost
- Physical size -- standard ATX PSU is 5.5" by 5.9" by 3.4" give or take a few tenths
www.newegg.com has lots of PSUs choices. Corsair, OCZ, Rosewill, Thermaltake.....
capitol-m
11-22-2010 08:47 AM (473 days ago)
thanks for the help, but that was not exactly my question.
I dont have the pc here yet, and was wondering if someone could verify whether it actually uses standard ATX connectivity.
Most reports seem to indicate It does not. (using a 6 pinned main power connector in stead)
Big_Dave
11-22-2010 08:59 AM (473 days ago)
Capital-m,
Go to HP Partsufer and enter the desired model PC. Then you will have to choose a specific model build. There are over 100 different build models. I checked one build model and it had a 320 watt PSU. Once you have the specific build model then find the PSU part number and do an internet search on it.
mikk311
11-22-2010 12:31 PM (473 days ago)
Replacement on a HP 8100 Elite Minitower does not seem straight forward. The PSU connects to the mainboard with a cable marked "PWR CMD" at the socket. Does anyone know what the pinout is, or if HP has an upgrade? I cannot seem to find one.
Thanks
Mikkel
Big_Dave
11-22-2010 12:49 PM (473 days ago)
Mikk311,
Did you look at this
manual? Also look at this
manual.
mikk311
11-22-2010 12:58 PM (473 days ago)
Hi Big_Dave
Yes, sure did. No optional psu's or pinout's on the "pwr cmd" connecter there.
This question is actually the same as the one capitol-m asks. The partnumber of the PSU is 508154-001 and as far as I can find out there is no way of upgrading that part - due to the proprietary connector.
Please tell me I am wrong?
Thanks
Mikkel
capitol-m
11-23-2010 12:17 AM (472 days ago)
All signs point to "no, you are not wrong". All information i have obtained is consistent with there being a proprietary PSU with a 6-pin main power connector.
I have been unable to find any replacement PCU's with a higher wattage, it seems replacement with stock components is the only option. Even aftermarket and brandless PSU's do not support this odd format.
It also seems that this is currently one of very few minitower systems still incorporating the proprietary PSU...For reasons unknown.
Big_Dave
11-23-2010 08:42 AM (472 days ago)
capitol-m,
I agree with your assertion.
Steven209
12-05-2010 05:26 AM (460 days ago)
Sorry if this is a bit redundant but I am being cautious. I recently purchased a HP Pavilion P6620f(250w PSU) and am need of changing the PSU on it on account that i want to install an EVGA GeForce GTS 450 FTW(400w min). The thing is I'm not exactly sure what to buy as far as PSU's go. I don't quite understand how to choose a psu that best fixes my situation and was hoping someone here would be able to help me. Thanks!
Kantucki
12-05-2010 08:18 AM (460 days ago)
Buy
THIS ONE. Yes it will fit. I've got the same one in my HP Pavilion.:smileyhappy:
Big_Dave
12-05-2010 08:59 AM (460 days ago)
The Corsair VX 550 is a good choice.
Steven209
12-05-2010 01:55 PM (460 days ago)
Alright, Cool! So the Corsair VX550 is it, thanks so much guys i really appreciate it, its nice to see some forums are still helpful and user friendly.
Kantucki
12-05-2010 02:49 PM (460 days ago)
You are welcome my friend.:smileyhappy:
milkyway44
12-05-2010 10:06 PM (460 days ago)
I was wondering if you wonderful people could help me out here, as I'm not familiar with HP's (anymore...last one I had was over 6 years ago). My family decided to buy me a computer...and it ended up being an HP Pavilion. A s5623w-b slim, to be exact. Part of my famly would like me to play World of Warcraft with them, but this computer, while it can play WoW, does not play it well (20FPS with lowest graphics settings...not much better than the computer I am replacing...).
So, because I am not satisfied with the graphics, I would like to upgrade it, but doing so on the power supply this one currently has (220v) is NOT going to happen (a little pow wow with my geeky friend who builds his own computers made that one pretty clear). Is it even possible to upgrade the power supply on this?
http://partsurfer.hp.com/Search.aspx?type=PROD&SearchText=BT437AA That's what I got on HP Part Surfer. Just the 220 and nothing else. If there's anyone here familiar with this model that can give me some tips or point me in the right direction, I'd appreciate it. I'm more of a software person, rather than hardware, so I have to turn to everyone else for this sort of thing >_> Help is very appreciated, though. I think this would be a solid computer with a better power supply and video card.
Big_Dave
12-06-2010 08:18 AM (459 days ago)
milkway44,
Google the power supply part number. You might be able to find a bigger PSU. If you should decide to replace the PSU, then know what the 12+ volt bus amperage is before you buy. Match the 12+ volt bus amperage to the video card that you are considering. The slimline cabinet will require a low profile video card.
A word of caution is that a bigger PSU and video card will generate more heat in a small cabinet.
milkyway44
12-06-2010 12:22 PM (459 days ago)
Thank you for the reply, Dave. :)
I will have to get in the case and look. Not sure if I will do that today or if I will hit it later when I'm home (I'm still in the city with my computer and I haven't exactly been feeling dandy...I broke out a blanket last night, because I couldn't keep warm!). And it sounds like I need to pick out the PSU and vid card at roughly the same time. Not really a problem, though, since I was getting the PSU for the vid anyway :)
As for the case, yeah if I could do like I did my last PC, I just left the side of the case off. Didn't have any heat issues. Did have to clean it more, but either you have heat issues or you clean. Not sure how well that would work with this case, especially if the case is designed to suck out air and such. I still have a lot of exploring to do with it (I have done a little optimising on Windows, though, shutting off unneeded services and some other things...that Remote Registry service really made my eyes widen when I saw it...wow! talk about a bad idea! immediately after I disabled mine, I disabled it on my sister's desktop here in the same room, too!).
Anyway, I really should eat my food, but if I have more questions, I will pop back up and ask them. I'm not afraid to ask questions! ;-)
JWegge
12-10-2010 12:01 PM (455 days ago)
I have 4 working pavilion media centers (from m7067c to m8100cto) which I know use ATX power supplies. Each of the original power supplies used a "side" in-take vent and fan to blow heat out the rear. I just replaced the original m8100cto power supply with an Antec Earthwatts 500W which had a similar fan configuation to the original HP power supply.
It appears to be a tight fit between the top of the power supply and the case top.... but many higher wattage ATX power supplies now seem to have their in-take vent on the top of the power supply rather than side. Will I have an airflow problem if the next replacement power supply has the in-take vent on the top of rather than rear?
Thanks for any guidance.
JWegge
cla-2010
12-23-2010 03:33 AM (442 days ago)
I'm going to by a new PC desktop HPG5220it, but I'm not able to find which kind of PSU is provided by default,
can you help me to find this info?
my intention is to upgrade this PC with a video card e.g. HD5670 or HD5750 & I'm concerned about PSU watts
thanks a lot in advance
cla
erico
12-24-2010 04:04 AM (441 days ago)
Hi,
cla-2010 wrote:
I'm going to by a new PC desktop HPG5220it, but I'm not able to find which kind of PSU is provided by default,
can you help me to find this info?
my intention is to upgrade this PC with a video card e.g. HD5670 or HD5750 & I'm concerned about PSU watts
thanks a lot in advance
cla
Your
PC has a mid-sized ATX case thus an
ATX motherboard (M2N68-LA (NARRA6) mfg:PegatronThe OEM PSU is 300W and has no six pin PCIe connector (which both the HD5670 and 5750 require)
You will need a PSU that supplies a minimum of 400 Watts and has a six pin PCIe connector. ATX12V / EPS12v
I suggest the
OCZ StealthXstream II found at Newegg.
Happy holidays,
erico
erico
12-24-2010 04:15 AM (441 days ago)
Hi,
cla-2010 wrote:
I'm going to by a new PC desktop HPG5220it, but I'm not able to find which kind of PSU is provided by default,
can you help me to find this info?
my intention is to upgrade this PC with a video card e.g. HD5670 or HD5750 & I'm concerned about PSU watts
thanks a lot in advance
cla
Your
PC has a mid-sized ATX case and a micro
ATX motherboard (M2N68-LA (NARRA6) mfg:PegatronThe OEM PSU is 300W and has no six pin PCIe connector (which both the HD5670 and 5750 require)
You will need a PSU that supplies a minimum of 400 Watts and has a six pin PCIe connector. ATX12V / EPS12v
I suggest the
OCZ StealthXstream II found at Newegg.
Happy holidays,
erico
zachhhhh
12-25-2010 07:44 PM (440 days ago)
JNagarya
01-04-2011 03:22 AM (430 days ago)
Can't find a better place to post this query --
Want to upgrade a Bestec ATX-300-12Z Rev. CDR PSU sufficient for the following.
System is an HP Pavilion a1253w Media Center with:
AMD 64 4000+ CPU (upgrade from 3200+)
4 GB RAM (upgrade from 512)
1 Floppy (added)
1 CDRW-DVD Read/Write Optical (came with model)
1 Blu-Ray Optical (added)
2 Seagate Barracuda 500GB SATA HDs (replaced single 100GB)
And while I'm at it, advice on HDMI (no onboard SPDIF)/VGA/DVI Graphics card to replace onboard graphics.
No gaming; video only, out to 32" Samsung HDTV and Samsung 21" Monitor. Both HDTV and Monitor have HDMI and DVI as two of three options.
In short, machine needs a PSU upgrade even without graphics card upgrade, so that is the first consideration.
Thanks.
Big_Dave
01-04-2011 04:50 AM (430 days ago)
JNagarya,
You should open up your PC and measure the physical dimensions of your power supply. Here is a list of things to consider:
- Specifications
- Total wattage - important
- 12+ volt amperage rating - important
- Modular - not mandatory but I like the flexibility
- Warranty
- i7 and SLI ready
- Efficiency rating
- Cost
- Physical size -- standard ATX PSU is 5.5" by 5.9" by 3.4" give or take a few tenths
www.newegg.com has lots of PSUs choices. Corsair, OCZ, Rosewill, Thermaltake.....
If a standard size PSU will fit then the Corsair VX 550 is a good choice. On the video card replacement, I like the newer NVIDIA 450 or 460 1GB models. They seem to have better backwards compatibility with older PCs.
Review the
ATI and
NVIDIA performance specifications. Look at the memory bandwidth specifications and the DirectX level support.
How to replace a power supply.
How to replace a video card.
JNagarya
01-04-2011 05:50 PM (430 days ago)
Big Dave --
As you know, or should know, I posted equivalent query in another forum, some days ago, clearly identifying the machine -- and your response was to ask me to identify the machine. I responded by pointing out that I had clearly identified the machine, and how you could determine that by reading the "Subject" line. As you also know, you've not responded to that post.
For the others here who are knowledgeable and responsive:
1. The machine is an HP Pavilion Media Center a1253w.
2. The power supply is a Bestec ATX-300-12Z Rev. CDR.
Here are facts to consider, "Big Dave":
1. A query should receive response; and the response should be specific to the query, not instead canned boilerplate.
2. There is no rule as to which order a computer upgrade must be done. I requested information as to which cards -- "cards" being plural -- would be compatible with that machine, the intent being to evaluate a range of compatible cards, rather than being limited to someone else's choice of one. The card chosen (and the machine as currently configured) would then determine the power supply to buy. Perhaps my preferring to do it in reverse of the usual order -- power supply first, card second -- confused you.
3. I am not a newbie. As for your advice to "open up your PC": I did so in order to upgrade the processor, install the RAM upgrade, install the two SATAs and floppy, the additional optical drive, etc. That's also how I determined the model number of the current power supply.
4. I have read the entire thread, and picked up from it some useful tips -- such as measuring the power supply dimensions (a useful bit of information I note you picked up and added to your boilerplate). Also in reading the entire thread I noted that your response to queries is always the same boilerplate, regardless the specificis of the query.
5. As for specifications and total wattage of the existing power supply: a guide, but ultimately irrelevant, as that is to be replaced. The +12 amperage is 19. The current configuration of the machine -- 4GB RAM, 2 Optical drives, 2 500GB SATA drives, etc. -- and the card I would choose would determine the power supply requirements.
6. This is the HP website; the bare facts of the makeup of the machine I did not provide are readily available, and can be found should additional information be needed.
7. "i7 and SLI ready". The board is an Asus/Amberine, 939 Slot, and the limits on processor upgrades are in the online specs. I upgraded the processor, as I believe I noted, from shipped-with AMD 64 3200+ to AMD 64 4000+. I would have upgraded to AMD 64 X2 4800+, the maximum processor the board will take according to the online specs, but the price for them is over-the-top.
8. As for other items in your boilerplate: total wattage appears to be 300; but the sticker also says, "Maximum Wattage: 288".
If the "Corsair VX 550" is 550 Watts, but, say, 400 or 450 Watts would provide ample headroom, 550 would be overkill, and threaten the life of the wallet. And I'm happy for you that you like the "newer NVidia 450 or 460 1GB models". Still, I'd rather look at a range of cards, as I might not have the same likes as you.
Thus my query is met with your usual boilerplate, some of it obviously inapplicable ("i7"-ready; I have no idea as to the meaning of "SLI"; is it too inapplicalbe?), instead of being answered. I find it tiresome and tiring to have to ask the same question twice -- now three times -- only to get, first, no response; and then boilerplate which is abstract, general, vague, and not tailored to the particular question. I'll bet you too find it tiresome and tiring to ask the same question more than once because all you get in response is boilerplate which doesn't answer the specific question.
What I don't know how to do is the math by means of which to determine the optimal wattage of the power supply. The prupose of this machine is watching film, and perhaps a small amount of video editing; absolutely no "gaming".
As for power supply: I would prefer a suggested range which includes more than the high end brands typically recommended here; certainly there are power supplies of sufficient quality which don't cost an arm-and-a-leg.
Big_Dave
01-04-2011 06:42 PM (430 days ago)
JNagarya,
I sent you an offline message.
JNagarya
01-04-2011 07:53 PM (430 days ago)
And I responded to it.
I'm not interested in "discussing" this issue "offline" as I don't wish to limit discussion, thereby limit my options. I posted openly so as many as want can respond. When possible, I like more than one opinion.
AngryUserEugene
02-02-2011 09:20 AM (401 days ago)
Big_Dave
02-02-2011 09:50 AM (401 days ago)
Hi Eugene,
I replaced my PSU with a Corsair HX 650. The Corsair VX 550 might be another choice for you. The HX 650 was a good fit for my needs. The cables are a bit long but you should be able to make them fit in nicely.
You might want to measure the length of the 6850 as space inside is a bit tight. The 6850 is 9.25 to10.25" in length depending on the card manufacturer. I installed the NVIDIA GTX 460 1GB and it's only 8.25" in length. You'll have to open up your PC and do some measuring to see if that 6850 is going to give you problems. The 6850 is a double wide card so the slot adjacent to the PCI-E x16 slot need s to be vacant.
Review the
ATI and
NVIDIA performance specifications. Look at the memory bandwidth specifications and the DirectX level support.
How to replace a power supply.
How to replace a video card.
AngryUserEugene
02-02-2011 10:02 AM (401 days ago)
Yes the doublewide and the length is sort of an issue. I checked my case and saw a small card o chip something on the 3rd slot. So is it still feasible to buy the ati card or will it cause problems. I don't know what this chip is called but if it helps the plug is green in the outside. I'm currently using a g210 which is around 6 inches and about 1 cm above my ram would this be a problem?
Big_Dave
02-02-2011 10:06 AM (401 days ago)
AngryUserEugene
02-02-2011 10:14 AM (401 days ago)
I don't think so, it's placed on the black bar above the white bar. Can I remove it?
EDIT:
Ah it's vacant but I just wanted to be sure because it seems like a very tight fit
Big_Dave
02-02-2011 10:37 AM (401 days ago)
You might want to consider the NIVIDA 4xx from a fit prospective but the 6850 has a good
price/performance ratio.
I generally don't recommend the newer ATI for older PCs as I have seen a few posts where users couldn't get the card to be recognized. Know what the return policy before you buy.
AngryUserEugene
02-02-2011 10:54 AM (401 days ago)
Yeah the 6850 is a really good card for its price and it's really good in crossfire. I'm kinda scared that ati won't work since I've been using an nvidia card all this time. Do you think the risks are high that it won't work on my mobo?
Big_Dave
02-02-2011 11:00 AM (401 days ago)
I can't say for sure that the 6850 will not work in your particular PC. Your PC was made in 2009 so you might be OK. The issues that I did see were with the ATI 5xxx cards.
AngryUserEugene
02-02-2011 11:11 AM (401 days ago)
Thanks for your help! At least now I know that I can replace my psu and hopefully my video card :D
Bye!
Raben
02-21-2011 12:28 AM (382 days ago)
HP Pavilion Elite HPE-560z is the model I recently purchased with phenom 6x 1090 3.2 gh, ATI 6570 2gb and 16gb ram TB HD.
I noticed that the stock power supply is 300W and I am concerned if this will be enough to run this machine. Anyone?
From AMD website
System Specifications for AMD Radeon™ 6570 GPU:
- PCI Express® based PC is required with one X16 lane graphics slot available on the motherboard
- 400 Watt or greater power supply recommended (500 Watt for AMD CrossFireX™ technology in dual mode)
Why does HP allow this build model with a stock 300W power supply? Must I buy a better PSU just to run the video card on recommended performance? Not to mention the processor uses 125W by itself...
Why HP... why....
Big_Dave
02-21-2011 05:25 AM (382 days ago)
Hi Raben,
HP selects a power supply sized based on HP's components for a particular model PC.
Raben
02-21-2011 11:37 AM (382 days ago)
Yes I figured that when I see that the 580 and 590 have a 460W. The 500 and 560 have 300W. Take notice that THIS model line is under the "HIGH PERFORMANCE" section of desktops.
.
HP should add power supplies to the customization part of buying their computers because gamers demand more power for their machines, heck not just gamers, anyone!
.
HP you need to do this so your customers dont have to go out and upgrade the power supply right after they buy your "High Performance" machines just to take advantage of the high perfmance potential.
.
I suppose this means Im buying another power supply unless I want this computer to run like crap.
Big_Dave
02-21-2011 05:42 PM (382 days ago)
Raben,
I agree with your suggestion that HP have a configuration option to select a bigger power supply. However, a bigger power supply will lead to more heat inside of a smallish cabinet which might cause premature electronic component failures.
JNagarya
02-22-2011 06:10 AM (381 days ago)
That is lame.
What HP shoud do is include all components necessary to both meet the purported specs and performance claims, and so the machine runs efficiently. If that means a bigger box, which is not a big deal, then it's a no-brainer that that should be the reality.
Instead, they sell machines with specific specs -- and claims. But in order to actually achieve the best from the machine, one must upgrade one or more components. Some of the costs of the upgrades are in effect hidden costs. So HP sells machines which they claim will perform up to a particular margin; but if it does it is marginally able to do so. Then if one decides to upgrade in keeping with HP recommendations --- a better video card? -- then one must also upgrade the power supply, which HP doesn't reveal even at that point.
So HP sells machines with the promise that they can be upgraded -- better video! -- but doesn't reveal that the upgrade of video card will cost more than just the video card.
SkipDaddy
02-25-2011 09:14 AM (378 days ago)
I have a Compag Presario CQ5320f and recently added a nvidia 8800 card so I could have two monitors, but it seems to be needing more power than the stock PSU. I needa 400-500 watt PSU, but can't figure out what is a safe and cheap PSU to pick for this. Any help?
Big_Dave
02-25-2011 09:27 AM (378 days ago)
SkipDaddy,
You should open up your PC and measure the physical dimensions of your power supply. Here is a list of things to consider:
- Specifications
- Total wattage - important
- 12+ volt amperage rating - important
- Modular - not mandatory but I like the flexibility
- Warranty
- i7 and SLI ready
- Efficiency rating
- Cost
- Physical size -- standard ATX PSU is 5.5" by 5.9" by 3.4" give or take a few tenths
- A single 12+ volt rail is a better choice.
www.newegg.com has lots of PSUs choices. Corsair, OCZ, Rosewill, Thermaltake.....
This
500 watt Corsair is a quality PSU.
SkipDaddy
02-25-2011 10:13 AM (378 days ago)
It's the connectors that always throw me. I guess I could just take the whole thing out and hit the local microcenter with it, but I was hoping someone had already replaced one so I know an exact model.
lfbb73
02-26-2011 02:20 AM (377 days ago)
Hello,
I
have an HPE-310PT with a 460W PSU and a GTX 260 graphics card (Max Power=182W, Minimum Recommended System Power=500W). I've been running this computer for 6 months without a single problem and a few days ago I discovered that my PSU doesn't fit into the 260 power demands. I don't understand how the 460W PSU can handle the GTX 260. I tested it with programs like 3DMark, FurMark, etc, without a single problem. My PSU shows in the sticker that it has 3 12V rails (+12Va=18A ; +12Vb=15A ; +12Vc=8A). A power supply for the 260 needs to have (in total accumulated) at least 38 Amps available on the 12 volts rails(18+15+8=41A), no problem here. My doubts are on the wattage, what can you say to me about that? P.S:The 260 card doesn't support DirectX 11 so I have already ordered an Asus GTX 460 1GB - a reference card - which I expect to work fine since is less power demanding than 260 (24 Amps on the 12V rails) and, beside that, according to Nvidia, only needs a 450W PSU.By the way, here is a GPU-Z image of my gtx 260:
Big_Dave
02-26-2011 03:46 PM (377 days ago)
HI,
HP uses OEM video cards made to HP's specifications so they may not be the same as a retail video card. The power requirements for many of the HP OEM video cards are at times different compared to a retail card.
Most retail GTX 460 video cards require two 6 pin PCI-E power connectors. Your power supply may only have one. You need to check for an extra PCI-E 6 pin connector. Otherwise, this means that you should make sure to balance the power draw for your video card across the rails. This is a reason why I prefer to use a single rail power supply.
The maximum sustained power draw (continuous) is an important factor with any power supply. Ohm's law is P(wattage) equals I(amperage) times E (voltage). P=IE The internal components in the power supply, particularly on the load side will have an big influence on the efficiency and continuous power rating.
lfbb73
02-27-2011 05:30 AM (376 days ago)
Hi, Big_Dave
After reading your answer I'm thinking about buying a new PSU for my PC, since I plan to overclock the graphics card. I've searched a bit over the internet and the
Corsair HX650W seems to meet the requirements, but i found a problem: the
HX650W fan is located on the top of the PSU. The factory Delta PSU is located on the top of the PC case, leaving just about one cm(0,4 inch) to the top and the fan blows the air to the back side of the PC case, directly to the exterior. Is this a problem? If it is I have to find a PSU with the fan blowing the air to the back side of the PC case.
Cheers.
EDIT
Maybe my text is a little bit confusing. Here's an image that's easy to understand:
Big_Dave
02-27-2011 02:01 PM (376 days ago)
Ifbb73,
Nice photo!:smileyhappy:
I noticed the air vents holes at the top are the same as on my e9280t PC that has the Corsair HX650 PSU. I mounted by Corsair fan up towards the top of the PC just like the orignial power supply.m The Corsair will mount in either direction.
a4scott
03-02-2011 02:25 PM (373 days ago)
I recently ordered this desktop; HP P6674Y Pavilion Phenom Quad Core Desktop. It is refurbished but the price was great for the specs, except for the video card. I play games so I want to add a medium to medium-high grade video card. In my research I've found I need to upgrade the PSU since this machine comes with a 250w PSU. Is there a maximum wattage that I could upgrade too? One forum I found mentioned that there is a maximum on some computers where if you have too many watts it won't run. I'd like to get a 600-650W PSU but don't want to order one only to find it won't work. Thanks in advance for your responses. PS, here are a bit more of the specs if needed. Base Processor- Phenom II X4-820 (D) 2.8 GHz (95W)
- 4000 MHz HyperTransport 3.0
- Socket AM3 - Chipset: AMD 785G
Motherboard- Manufacturer: Foxconn
- Motherboard Name: H-ALVORIX_HF-RS880-uATX
- HP/Compaq motherboard name: Alvorix-GL8E
Power SupplyMemory- Memory Installed: 6GB
- Maximum Allowed:
- 16 GB (4 x 4 GB) (64-bit OS)
- 4 GB (4 x 1 GB) (32-bit OS) Actual available memory may be less - Speed Supported: PC3-10600 MB/sec
- Type: 240 pin, DDR3
Hard Drive- 1 TB SATA 3G (3.0 Gb/sec)
- 7200 rpm
Big_Dave
03-02-2011 02:47 PM (373 days ago)
Hi a4scott,
You should open up your PC and measure the physical dimensions of your power supply. Here is a list of things to consider:
- Specifications
- Total wattage - important
- 12+ volt amperage rating - important
- Modular - not mandatory but I like the flexibility
- Warranty
- i7 and SLI ready
- Efficiency rating
- Cost
- Physical size -- standard ATX PSU is 5.5" by 5.9" by 3.4" give or take a few tenths
- A single 12+ volt rail is a better choice.
www.newegg.com has lots of PSUs choices. Corsair, OCZ, Rosewill, Thermaltake.....
The
Corsair CX600 or the HX650 are excellent power supplies.
Tom--HP-G5210uk
03-02-2011 04:14 PM (373 days ago)
Hi can someone help me with power supply for HP g5210uk it has already 300W power suplly. But I want to put a new graphic card and it require 450W power supply. I am thinking to put 500W power suply but I dount now which is suitable for me HP g5210uk ???
Big_Dave
03-02-2011 04:18 PM (373 days ago)
Hi Tom,
These HP "how-to"
articles should be helpful.
What graphics card are you considering?
Review the
ATI and
NVIDIA performance specifications. Look at the memory bandwidth specifications and the DirectX level support.
Tom--HP-G5210uk
03-02-2011 05:29 PM (373 days ago)
Big_Dave
03-02-2011 05:34 PM (373 days ago)
Tom,
You should be good to go. Open up your PC and make sure that everything that you are buying will fit. The slot adjacent to the PCI-E x16 slot needs to be vacant.
My only concern is making sure that your video card will get all the need amperage off the PCI-E power connector. I prefer single rail power supplies.
Tom--HP-G5210uk
03-02-2011 06:02 PM (373 days ago)
All slots are free. Can you tell me more about this your reply "My only concern is making sure that your video card will get all the need amperage off the PCI-E power connector. I prefer single rail power supplies. " ?
THANKS.
Big_Dave
03-02-2011 06:45 PM (373 days ago)
Hi Tom,
Review this
post.
Review this
link on single rail and then to be fair this link on multiple
rail power supplies. There is always going to be a debate over single rail verses multiple rail power supplies. Some manufacturers make both types.
Tom--HP-G5210uk
03-02-2011 07:44 PM (373 days ago)
Thanks
Tom--HP-G5210uk
03-03-2011 09:19 AM (372 days ago)
Big_Dave
03-03-2011 10:05 AM (372 days ago)
Tom,
The NVIDIA 430 might work with your current power supply. This card draws power from the PCI-E slot.
Another card to consider if you don't need DirectX 11 support is the NVIDIA GT 240 1GB DDR5. This card will work with most 300 watt power supplies. It's an excellent card. I am using the EVGA GT 240 1GB DDR5 in one of my PCs. This card also draws power from the PCI-E x16 slot.
Review the
NVIDIA performance specifications. Look at the memory bandwidth specifications and the DirectX level support.
Tom--HP-G5210uk
03-03-2011 10:27 AM (372 days ago)
Thanks
Christ0ph
03-07-2011 01:04 AM (368 days ago)
Hi,
I'm trying to find a replacement Power Supply for my HP 8100 Elite Minitower (PSU Part No 508154-001).
I read in this threat that there seems to be no HP or third party replacement possibility because of its proprietary connectors.
I need a PSU with a PCI E Powerconnector for a new NVidia or ATI GPU.
Has somebody found a solution in the meantime?
yernobyl
03-10-2011 07:38 PM (365 days ago)
I own a HP Pavilion p6649c desktop computer. I'm thinking about installing a new video card (new card requires 500+ Watts), but I'm unsure of which power supply I need to get since I heard that HP motherboards might not accept regular power connectors. Do I have to buy a power supply through HP or can I purchase one from a third-party company?
If I can buy from another company, would
this be able to fit inside my tower?
captwham
03-13-2011 11:18 AM (362 days ago)
OK. I'm clearly not in the same league as the other posters on here but here goes. I have a Pavilion p6110y desktop that I'm adding a graphics card to. I'll need to upgrade my power supply from 250w to 300w to do so. Can someone suggest a compatible power supply? Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Big_Dave
03-13-2011 11:56 AM (362 days ago)
Captwham,
What video card are you looking to use? Can you tell us the main intended purpose is for adding a video card?
You might want to consider a bigger PSU so that you have a bigger selection of video cards to chose from.
captwham
03-13-2011 01:04 PM (362 days ago)
Just bought a Sapphire Radeon HD 4550 card. Specs says it needs at least a 300w power supply. My needs are modest so this card seemed to fit the bill pretty well.
Big_Dave
03-13-2011 01:10 PM (362 days ago)
Hi,
Try this
Corsair. It's $20 after the rebate.
Inventory your internal power supply connectors and verify that the
Corsair has the connectors that you need.
JNagarya
03-14-2011 06:39 AM (361 days ago)
I have an HP Media Center PC -- I've posted about this before now -- in which I maxed the RAM, upgraded the processor, then installed that card with Windows 7 Home Premium clean install. After countless clean installs, all fine until installing this card and its drivers -- and with no support whatsoever from HP, on any of this, because it does not exist -- upgraded stock power supply to Corsair 450.
Have every doubt the card now works properly, but have been so put off the machine because the addition of the card destabilizes the entire system, that I've not bothered to put in the time to discover yet again that this card and or its current drivers are unusuable.
Hope you have better luck. But if you don't, don't expect any help from HP beyond canned hit-or-miss.
LostinNC
04-13-2011 03:33 PM (331 days ago)
How about some help installing a new power supply?
I have a Pavilion Elite d5000t ATX desktop. The Nvidia GeForce 9800GT graphics card that came with it died and I decided that since I was replacing it, I might as well upgrade. I chose an AMD Sapphire Radeon HD 6970 without looking at the power requirements. It requires a minimum 550W PSU and the stock one in the machine is 460W.
OK, my bad. So, again deciding to upgrade, I got a Corsair GS700 PSU. It has a multitude of cables for every possible need... except one. My motherboard has one plug next to the CPU, conveniently labeled ATX CPU, for which the Corsair does not have a matching cable. It's a 4 pin socket in a 2X2 configuration. The CPU cable in the Corsair is an 8pin in a 2X4 configuration.
Is the Corsair PSU a lost cause for this machine or is there a way I can adapt the 2X4 connector to the 2X2 socket without burning anything up?
Big_Dave
04-13-2011 06:01 PM (331 days ago)
Hi,
The Corsair GS700 is not a lost cause. You should be able to "split" that
8 pin ATX power connector and just use 4 pins. Tape off the danging 4 pins to prevent shorting against something.
If you don't like the idea of a dangling end then buy a ATX 8 pin to 4 pin adapter.
LostinNC
04-14-2011 06:51 AM (330 days ago)
Thank you, Sir! The 8 pin ATX connector doesn't appear to be designed to be split and I'd rather be safe than sorry so I will go in search of the adapter. The quick response is much appreciated.
Big_Dave
04-14-2011 11:08 AM (330 days ago)
LostinNC,
Big_Dave
04-14-2011 11:58 AM (330 days ago)
Hi,
You might also want to try "straddling" the motherboard ATX 4 PIN connector with the ATX 8 pin power connector. There might or might not be room for this option.
crzytenor
04-15-2011 10:29 AM (329 days ago)
I just bought a p6780t and this is the PSU I'm looking at: It's a CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V and the dimensions are: 5.9"(W) x 3.4"(H) x 5.9"(L)
Will it fit my machine? If not, what dimensions should I be looking for?
Big_Dave
04-15-2011 02:01 PM (329 days ago)
Crzytenor,
The Corsair TX 650 will fit. To ease the installation, unlatch and slide the optical drive forward when installing the new power supply and then slide it back into its original position.
These HP "how-to"
articles should be helpful.
The Corsair PSU have longer cables so should look to find places to tuck away the cables to maximize air flow.
crzytenor
04-15-2011 02:20 PM (329 days ago)
Thanks so much!
LostinNC
04-15-2011 02:42 PM (329 days ago)
Right again, Sir. The two halves were such a perfect fit, the seam between them was nearly invisible, but it popped right apart. Thanks again!
LostinNC
04-15-2011 04:10 PM (329 days ago)
Hey Big Dave,
I'm sorry, I know this is getting off track for this thread, but are you as well-versed in GPU's are you are in PSU's? As I mentioned in my first post, the reason I upgraded PSU in my Pavilion d5000t was because I had replaced my GPU with one that required substantially more power. The Corsair PSU is now working fine but I have a problem with the GPU.
I replaced the oroginal Nvidia GeForce 9800GT with an AMD Sapphire Radeon HD6970. The Sapphire is a huge brick of a thing that takes up 2 expansion slots and an amazing amount of space inside the case. I had to reposition the HDD SATA cables to make room for the GPU.
As long as that card is in the slot, as soon as I apply power, something in the machine emits a continuous, loud high pitched tone. My first thought was it was the original PSU alerting that something was overdrawing power. However, even with the new 700W PSU, I still get the same tone. It's not a screeching sound like a rubbing fan or dry bearing, it's definitely a tone. It doesn't matter if the additional power cables are connected to the card or not. It just has to be in the slot. The computer boots up normally and I get video from the mobo video port. I have not yet loaded the Sapphire drivers as it says to install the card first.
If I remove the card from the slot, all is quiet and works fine except I have no GPU. I tried going to AMD to see if they could help and their only suggestion was to try putting the card in another machine and see if the same thing happens. This is not an option as I simply don't have another machine available.
Any thoughts or suggestions?
Thanks
Big_Dave
04-15-2011 06:47 PM (329 days ago)
LostinNC,
Connect the power cables to the card. Leave the PC open and try to locate where the sound in coming from. You might try to use a finger and touch the fan casings, the video card, the buzzer next to the CMOS battery etc.. and try and feel for the sound and listen to a possible source.
Are you perhaps hearing a continuous beep? Look over these
beep codes for your PC. With that long of a card, it's very possible that the memory dimms are not properly seated.
Brenden6293
04-18-2011 08:49 PM (326 days ago)
I'm looking for a 500w power supply to play games better.
My computer Model: Ny545AA-aba p6210y
processor: amd athlon(tm)IIx4 620
Memory: 6144MB RAM
Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 9100
Manufacturer: NVIDIA
Chip type: GeForce 9100
As you can see my graphics card isnt very good. and i'm running on a 300W power supply. after searching the internet without many conclusive answers, i came here for assistance.
Is there any reccomended power supply/graphics card for this desktop? I'm hoping for a 400w-500w power supply and a decent graphics card to play games on max graphics settings.
dumpystig
04-19-2011 03:49 PM (325 days ago)
@ LostinNC
I recently installed a replacement GPU. As soon as i powered up the PC there was an almighty high pitched whine/squeal. I switched off instantly and looked for anything obvious - and it was obvious... turned out I hadn't connected the 6-pin power block to the GPU. Stupid i know, but easily done. Although I don't know if my monitor would have still displayed anything on the screen without this power connection. I also read that the capacitors on the GPU will make this type of noise if they are being starved of power. Just a thought...
Big_Dave
04-19-2011 03:51 PM (325 days ago)
Hi Brendon,
Playing games on maximum settings for unknown games is perhaps an expectation and many can't predict a perfect solution. You should visit the game of choice forum and look for a recommended video card to use on the maximum settings.
You might want to consider ther NVIDIA GTX 550 TI ($150). For a power supply, the Corsair CX500 or CX600 are both selling for $60 at
www.newegg.com.
Review the
ATI and
NVIDIA performance specifications. Look at the memory bandwidth specifications and the DirectX level support.
How to replace a power supply.
How to replace a video card.
Brenden6293
04-19-2011 06:55 PM (325 days ago)
Okay thanks, i looked at a few corsairs but their dimensions are off by a few Cm, say i have a 6 x 3.5 x 5.5 power supply now and i wanted to replace it with a 5.9 x 3.4 x 5.5 Corsair 500w power supply. since the dimensions arent exactly equal, is it unable to be installed? this may sound like a dumb question since the most logical answer would probably be no, they need to be the same dimensions, but if its possible then i'd definitly purchase this power supply.
Big_Dave
04-20-2011 08:36 AM (324 days ago)
Brendon,
I replaced my PSU with a Corsair that measured 5.9 by 3.5 by 5.9 so you should be OK.:smileyhappy:
Brenden6293
04-23-2011 06:57 PM (321 days ago)
Okay, did your original power supply have different dimensions than the one you replaced it with?
And my friend's brother works in computer, he stressed how I should make sure my computer can handle the new power supply. from looking at my specs i posted before, do you think my computer would overheat from adding a 500w power supply? if you have no idea, can you redirect me to a website or maybe a phone number to call hp where i can get some help?
Big_Dave
04-23-2011 07:02 PM (321 days ago)
Brenden6293,
My original power supply had the same dimensions as the power supply in your PC. Your PC should not over heat with a 500 watt power supply. I have basically the same cabinet as your PC and a have a 650 watt power supply.
A friend or a friend tends to be way too much hearsay.
JWegge
04-25-2011 01:55 PM (319 days ago)
The original power supply fan in my M9552P is beginning to whine which is probably a signal that it's time for a replacement. Because I'll be adding a new video card at the same time, I'm looking for compatible power supplies in the 550 watt to 650 watt range.... Any recommendations...?
Thanks for your help.
JWegge
Big_Dave
04-25-2011 05:41 PM (319 days ago)
Hi JWegge,
The Corsair HX 650 is an excellent choice for a modular power supply.
The Corsair CX 600 is an excellent choice for a non-modular power supply.
Go to
www.newegg.com and look under power supplies. Look
here for more Corsair choices.
JWegge
04-26-2011 07:19 AM (318 days ago)
Thank you for the reply.
Can you explain, or point me to a discussion, as to when one would use a modular power supply versus a non-modular supply?
Thanks again for your assistance.
JWegge
Big_Dave
04-26-2011 05:25 PM (318 days ago)
JWegge,
You can certainly google the issue if you really want that information. A modular PSU will allow you to add only the cable types for your needs. Additionally, your needs might require extra connectors of a given type.
OldSmith
05-05-2011 03:51 PM (309 days ago)
I just replaced the PSU on my husbands a6200n. I liked the reviews of the corsairs but it was too big. I installed a cooler master Silent-Pro-M 600w. The height & width were perfect but the depth was over by about a 1/4". There is a protruding lip on the case that supports the PSU at about halfway. So the depth should be OK. I did not install the silicone vibration pads as I felt it would add even more depth. No problems (20 minutes) & it is absolutely silent.
Other thoughts: the a6200n came with a 250w PSU which only had a 20 pin power connector in the 20 + 4 pin receptacle on the MB ( MCP61PM-HM by ECS) Another poster replied that the 250 was too cheap to include the extra 4-pins. And another offered hope that it didn't fry the MB. After much hand wringing I realized that the MB was built for a 20 + 4; a 250w PSU couldn't support the + 4; and if I ever want to upgrade the audio & video the MB will need the whole 20+4.
Just thought this might help. If it goes bad I'll let you know.
Update 5-5-11: Exactly 1 hour of running, loud metalic grinding sound which slowed as pc shut down. Opened case. There was no vibration. within 5 minutes both the noise & the PSU fan stopped. Smell of burnt plastic. Amazon is sending replacement. Any thoughts?
Update 5-7-11: Just installed the replacement. Running for 2-1/2 hours now. No difference in the installation.
Warsun
05-11-2011 10:42 PM (303 days ago)
Ok this is kind of a rant so try to understand my position.
OK. I had just went to Best Buy and got a XFX 6850 video card an installed it into my.
Gateway Dx4200-09
http://www.gateway.com/product_spec.php?product_recid=529668220 with a 350 watt power supply. It worked very well and did great graphics. Then the power blew out and sparks started flying! It burned out my Power supply and a circuit from my mother board.
I could easily replace the circuit but i was feeling lazy an just took it to Best Buy's Geek Squad to fix it. I payed for parts an labor an we went through the list of what needed to be done. Some jerk came up an said it is proably my mother board. an i repeatedly said it was my power supply an i need it replaced. He repeatedly said it was the motherboard.
After him constantly arguing with me i made it clear i am here to get it fixed.He says ok then takes the computer for 200 dollars because it was out of warranty. by 6 months. I told them to put in a more powerful power supply pointed it out. they agree. I cam back 6 days later an they fixed NOTHING! They did not install my power supply which i pointed out and then claimed it would additional charges.
I approached my computer an immediately smell fried circuits. It is a VERY distinctive smell. Not solder from a soldering iron.The fried processor an other parts.I fix VCRs so i know what that smell is. He literally fried it. Then comes back an says. Yeah your Power supply is also fried. But now. So is your whole motherboard......
You know i was very very angry at this point. But all in all i ended up getting a whole new computer an Best Buy got a whole new Geek for what he did to my computer. That being said. I got a HP
HP Pavilion p6754y Desktop PC
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/product?cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&product=5049531 Here is the problem. I want to install my
XFX Radeon HD 6850
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/reviews/xfx_radeon_hd_6850_review The problem here is. Last time i installed it on my other computer it fried it.What can i do to prevent this from happening again? Because one way or another its going in this new computer.
velesot365
05-11-2011 11:01 PM (303 days ago)
ThePurpleJesus
06-16-2011 08:30 PM (267 days ago)
Hi....I am looking to upgrade my power supply for my computer, but I am not sure what all I need to know. Will any power supply that will fit in the case work? Do all power supplies have the necessary number of connections or whatever? I know I sound like a moron, but all I have ever upgraded is memory and graphic cards. Now I want to upgrade my graphic card even higher, but i only have a 300 watt power supply. I need at least 400watt. Here is the computer I have....if someone could sort of direct me in what to look for in a power supply that would be great. I prefer cheaper because I am poor :).
NY549AAR p6230y
thats the product name anyway.
thanks in advance.
Big_Dave
06-17-2011 03:39 PM (266 days ago)
Hi Warsun,
AMD recommends a minimum of a 500 watt PSU.
My recommendation is to look at a quality power supply such as the
Corsair CX600.
Big_Dave
06-17-2011 03:44 PM (266 days ago)
Hi The PurpleJesus,
You should open up your PC and measure the physical dimensions of your power supply. Here is a list of things to consider:
- Specifications
- Total wattage - important
- 12+ volt amperage rating - important
- Modular - not mandatory but I like the flexibility
- Warranty
- i7 and SLI ready
- Efficiency rating
- Cost
- Physical size -- standard ATX PSU is 5.5" by 5.9" by 3.4" give or take a few tenths
- A single 12+ volt rail is a better choice.
www.newegg.com has lots of PSUs choices. Corsair, OCZ, Rosewill, Thermaltake.....
The size of the power supply will depend on what video card you are perhaps considering. Generally a Corsair CX500 or CX600 will work for most video cards except for perhaps the very top end video card models.
ThePurpleJesus
06-18-2011 11:58 AM (265 days ago)
Hi Big Dave,
Sweetness Big Dave. you sir are awesome. Why do you recommend i7 and SLI ready? Those are processors right? and number 3 and number 10 on your list....do I need the PSU to be 12 volt or do I need to make sure my motherboard is 12 volt capable or what do you mean exactly?
Also I know what graphic card I want...it needs at least 400watt supply so I was thinking about going with something a little higher...you know just in case. But when I look at newegg and tigerdirect, I see all these PSU's from 19.99 up to like 599.00. If I can find something for like 30 bucks that has all the connectors I need is there any real reason not to get that one as opposed to a higher priced one that will have like way more connectors than I will ever use? Also I know that I need to pick one where the plug is in the same place as my old one, but you know how some PSU's have a fan on the back and others have one on the side......will a PSU that has a fan on the side...will I need to cut part of my case off or something? I mean the fan isn't going to do much if there is metal case in the way will it?
ThePurpleJesus
06-18-2011 02:13 PM (265 days ago)
also big dave i opened up my rig to see what all connectors i have and this is what it looks like....i am going to try and explain anyway. I found diagrams of different connectors i.e. 20+4 main connector, the 4 box mother board connector etc.
here is what i found out. keep in mind i traced my wires straight from the PSU.
the main power connector--24-----12 rows of 2 wires.
motherboard connector--4 wires in box formation....two and two.
i also have what i can only assume are two SATA connectors. but they are not a single connector. for instance....the one for the hard drive----there is one connector with wires from the PSU and right beside it is another plug with one big flat looking wire leading to the mother board. this smaller plug that has the big flat looking wore actually says SATA on the plug. I only have two sets of these plugs. one for the hard drive and one for the DVD rom--optical drive.
all of the other plugs for the other components like the motherboard fan, the power swtiches, headphone and universal jacks on the front etc...all seem to come from the motherboard to the back of the component.
so with my convaluted description....what do you think? I think I am looking for a PSU with at least 2 SATA plugs, one 4prong box looking motherboard plug, and one 24 12 rows of 2 main connector. am i right? Also it looks pretty snug in there dude.....i don't think there is much room for a bigger unit. i mean i don't want it touching the motherboard at all right? there is maybe half an ince from the motherboard to the bottom of the PSU and maybe 3 inches from the back of the PSU to the back of the optical drive.
Gowmaster
06-19-2011 12:38 AM (264 days ago)
Big_Dave
06-19-2011 07:11 PM (264 days ago)
Hi ThePurpleJesus,
There are many power supplies that will "bolt in" your PC without modifications.
What video card are you considering?
Yes it's tight between the PSU and the optical drive bays.
Big_Dave
06-19-2011 07:17 PM (264 days ago)
Gowmaster,
AMD is recommending a minimum 400 watt power supply for the
AMD 4xxx video cards.
What is your main purpose for adding/replacing the video card? If it's gaming then look for a better video card.
Review the
ATI and
NVIDIA performance specifications. Look at the memory bandwidth specifications and the DirectX level support.
ThePurpleJesus
06-24-2011 03:36 PM (259 days ago)
ok....i so I bought a a thermaltake PSU 500 Watt for like 60 or 70 dollars (i forget but it ends up only being $40 with the mail in rebates and stuff) and I am pretty sure it has all the connectors and plugs that I need. I thought I had gotten a modular....or is it non-modular.....well I thought I had gotten the one where I would choose which connectors and hook-ups I need so as to cut back on the amount of cables floating about not being used but apparently I didn't. So I will have a bunch of unused cables floating around tied up with zip ties.
I am looking at an ATI radeon 5670 mainly because the specs look pretty good and the price is pretty awesome. BUT, as I am just a beginner in the learning of computer hardware and software specs, I require some much needed advice and pointers. I guess I should start with the basics....
As I am comparing NVidia and ATI/AMD graphic cards, I have noticed that NVidia cards tend to have a lot fewer stream processors than a comparable ATI/AMD card. But then again the clocks tend to be higher on NVidia cards than the ATI equivalent. What am I looking for in a gaming graphic card?
grasshopper58
06-26-2011 08:11 AM (257 days ago)
i have an hp p7-1037cb with a bestec atx-250-12z rev d7r power supply. i want to install an ati firepro v5800 graphics card to run autodesk inventor. what power supply should i get to run it?
Big_Dave
06-26-2011 06:00 PM (257 days ago)
Hi ThePurpleJesus,
Generally the higher memory bandwidth, the better the video card. The level of DirectX is also important if your want better detail.
Review the
ATI and
NVIDIA performance specifications. Look at the memory bandwidth specifications and the DirectX level support.
Big_Dave
06-26-2011 06:17 PM (257 days ago)
grasshopper58,
Your PC should have a standard size power supply but it's always best to do some measuring.
You should open up your PC and measure the physical dimensions of your power supply. Here is a list of things to consider:
- Specifications
- Total wattage - important
- 12+ volt amperage rating - important
- Modular - not mandatory but I like the flexibility
- Warranty
- i7 and SLI ready
- Efficiency rating
- Cost
- Physical size -- standard ATX PSU is 5.5" by 5.9" by 3.4" give or take a few tenths
- A single 12+ volt rail is a better choice.
www.newegg.com has lots of PSUs choices. Corsair, OCZ, Rosewill, Thermaltake.....
A good quality 500 watt power supply should be sufficient.
grasshopper58
06-27-2011 01:35 PM (256 days ago)
thanks big dave...gives me the compass bearing i needed...
grasshopper58
Robmont
07-14-2011 10:51 AM (239 days ago)
i am looking for a replacement power supply for my slimline s3624uk computer...the part number 5188-7521 is modified so what is the new part number for this psu?
Big_Dave
07-14-2011 12:23 PM (239 days ago)
Hi,
You have a UK based slimline. It's best to call HP in the UK and get the power supply.
I could recommend a supplier in the US if you desire that information. This US
supplier has what you need. I don't know what the shipping charges would be.
Oh, see your other post for a possible UK supplier.
bored01
07-22-2011 01:43 PM (231 days ago)
Hi,
I'm trying to upgrade the GFX card in a Pavilion model m9788sc from 2009. (Truckee MB)
This will require a new PSU, but on fitting a 850W watt OCZ PSU, the CPU fan spins for a second or so, then it all shuts down. Everything works normally if I go back to the original 460W PSU.
Note, that this stage, I haven't fitted the new card (GTX590....Yes, I know there will be a heat issue!), and the original OEM GT230 is still in place.
I suspect that maybe there is not enough load on the PSU, and it may be OK if I install the GFX at the same time, but could there be another reason?
Big_Dave
07-22-2011 06:44 PM (231 days ago)
Hi,
You better do some measuring to make sure that the NVIDIA 590 will even fit.
I have seen a few posts out here where the bigger PSUs didn't work. You might consider a Corsair 750w model as that was the last size that I heard will work.
bored01
07-23-2011 12:13 AM (230 days ago)
Thanks Big_Dave.
The card will fit, but I'll probably remove the 'media drive' bays (whatever they are) to improve airflow.
But anyway, I gather a standard ATX PSU 'should' work. I was concerned that HP may have some proprietry system.
tarpon31
07-27-2011 11:44 PM (226 days ago)
Use caution with installing the 750 watt corsair I had purchased the corsair tx750 v2 for my hp 490t to give adequate power to my new gtx 580 and it did not work when you would turn it on it would power for a second then cut right off I had to return the corsair tx750 v2 as it would not work with my hp 490t after calling hp technical support I was informed to use a power supply no bigger than 600 watts (after contacting multiple hp employees with only one giving me an answer).
As of right now I have the corsair cx600 on order and I will follow up wether it worked or not. I sure hope this works as it has been a pain trying to add on to this computer and very expensive.
Good luck to you guys and thankyou Big_Dave for all your helpfull posts on this forum.
Forgot to mention I tried two tx750 v2 power supplies so it was not a power supply issue.
Big_Dave
07-28-2011 10:02 AM (225 days ago)
Tarpon,
You might be right with too big of a power supply. However, the 600 watt limitation indicated by HP support is probably NOT correct. I am using a Corsair HX 650 in my e9280t and it has the same motherboard as the HPE-490t and the bios was initially the same. The HX 650 has enough amperage of the +12 volt bus for the NVIDIA 590 but it's 650 watt rating is a bit short of the 700 watt specification indicated by some manufacturers. The HX 650 would probably work but it will not offer a lot for any future growth.
tarpon31
07-28-2011 10:17 AM (225 days ago)
Yes the issue of future growth is a concern for me. I was wanting to make the 750 watt corsair work in this computer incase I ever upgrade again but as it stands I am keeping my fingers crossed that this 600 watt corsair psu will work as it is getting annoying sending back psu's to newegg and paying the $15 restocking fee.
As much as I like the HP 490t if I could have done it over again I would have bought the parts and assembled the computer myself. I was ignorant and a little intimdated to build a computer myself but realized after it was to late it realy is not that hard to accomplish I had no idea that the motherboard on this computer is so locked I may put back in the stock psu/gtx 460 that came with the unit and just save up for another build and take it slowly.
I am in no way trying to discredit hp desktops I think they are realy nice especialy if you can get a good deal on one and you are happy with it's initial specs but upgrading them is kind of limited IMO.
After looking at your model Corsair 650 watt I wish I went that route as it looks like a higher quality unit plus it would ahve given me a little bit of head room for the gtx 580. Thankyou for the reply I appreciate how much you contribute on this forum.
tarpon31
08-01-2011 05:17 PM (221 days ago)
Just wanted to update my last post and let you all know that the Corsair cx600 is compatible with the HP HPE 490t it is doing a great job running this machine. I will let you all know if I experience any issues. For all of you upgrading power supplies on your HP desktops try to keep the overall wattage under 650 watts to avoid problems.
Big_Dave
08-01-2011 06:31 PM (221 days ago)
Hi tarpon31,
Thanks for getting back to us. I don't like the restocking fees either.:smileymad:
egkor
08-03-2011 04:28 PM (219 days ago)
I just installed a Corsair GS700 power supply into my HP p6710f desktop, replacing the stock Bestec 250w P.S.
So far so good, runs nicely, quiet.
Next (later today) I will be installing a GeForce GTS 450 1GB PCI-X video card (the reason I installed the new power supply).
-Gary K
Big_Dave
08-03-2011 05:06 PM (219 days ago)
Gary,
Good show!:smileyhappy:
Thanks for getting back to us.
AOG
08-03-2011 05:40 PM (219 days ago)
egkor wrote:
I just installed a Corsair GS700 power supply into my HP p6710f desktop, replacing the stock Bestec 250w P.S.
So far so good, runs nicely, quiet.
Next (later today) I will be installing a GeForce GTS 450 1GB PCI-X video card (the reason I installed the new power supply).
-Gary K
Hi egkor,
How did you fit the 6.3" depth for GS 700 inside the HP p6710f case???
The standard PS depth for this case should be 5.5"?? I am curious to know that
Best regards
Big_Dave
08-03-2011 05:44 PM (219 days ago)
AOG,
My guess is that you can't get a piece of paper between the optical drive and the PSU. I am just exaggerating some.
5.9" by 3.4" by 6.3". The standard PSU is 5.9" by 3.4" by 5.5". That probably makes it .8" longer. The trick with the long PSUs is to slide the optical drive forward then install the PSU. It makes it a lot easier.
egkor
08-03-2011 07:13 PM (219 days ago)
I got the GeForce GTS 450 installed successfully w/ the GS 700 PS. And video drivers/etc. Using the system to post this.
The new PS is deeper than the original, but when installed there is still space between the back of the PS and the optical drive.
Edit: I didn't have to move the optical drive, just out w/ the old PS and in w/ the new.
-Gary K
tarpon31
08-03-2011 07:32 PM (219 days ago)
Hey Gary,
Thanks for letting us know about your success with installing your 700 watt corsair power supply.
It looks like this brings the limit up to 700 watts that can be installled in an HP desktop and with this in mind I wish I had bought that model.
After having two failed attempts with the corsair tx750v2
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139021 and then speaking to HP and them telling me 600 watts is the max I could install in an HP desktop I went ahead and got the budget model the corsair cx600. So far so good but I am definantly considering buying either your model or Big_Dave's model to have a little head room.
I am curious if this is truly a wattage compatibility issue or if there is more to the difference between the GS700,cx600,hx650 compared to the tx750v2 model?, I am ignorant on power supplies and realy computer's in general to know the differences between them...all I know is I could not get the tx750v2 to work after trying two different brand new units.
Big_Dave
08-03-2011 07:33 PM (219 days ago)
Hi Gary,
Good show again!:smileyhappy:
Big_Dave
08-03-2011 07:36 PM (219 days ago)
Hi Tarpon,
Perhaps the newer and bigger PSUs are not providing a sensing voltage signal that is the same as the older power supplies.
AOG
08-03-2011 07:49 PM (219 days ago)
Well that is interesting.
So in this case you ignored the latch that lock on the 5.5" which used to mount the PS correctly without movement
good for you, and good luck on the new upgrade
egkor
08-03-2011 09:01 PM (219 days ago)
AOG wrote:
Well that is interesting.
So in this case you ignored the latch that lock on the 5.5" which used to mount the PS correctly without movement
good for you, and good luck on the new upgrade
4 screws and the old PS came out. The new one went in, 4 screws back in to hold it into place. I didn't observe a latch, maybe I missed it.
I am actually surprised some of you are telling me I should have failed at this. I guess since I didn't know that going in, I was able to get it done. :smileyhappy:
-Gary K
OldSmith
08-03-2011 09:10 PM (219 days ago)
Thanks for posting the dimensions; not all mfg's tell us what they are.
OldSmith
08-03-2011 09:22 PM (219 days ago)
Yeah, a 350w PS will try for a while but when it blew it may have taken part of your board with it. You can't know if that Radeon is OK? Get a way bigger PSU & get the Radeon checked out. ? Good luck
Warsun wrote:
Ok this is kind of a rant so try to understand my position.
OK. I had just went to Best Buy and got a XFX 6850 video card an installed it into my.
Gateway Dx4200-09
http://www.gateway.com/product_spec.php?product_recid=529668220
with a 350 watt power supply. It worked very well and did great graphics. Then the power blew out and sparks started flying! It burned out my Power supply and a circuit from my mother board.
I could easily replace the circuit but i was feeling lazy an just took it to Best Buy's Geek Squad to fix it. I payed for parts an labor an we went through the list of what needed to be done. Some jerk came up an said it is proably my mother board. an i repeatedly said it was my power supply an i need it replaced. He repeatedly said it was the motherboard.
After him constantly arguing with me i made it clear i am here to get it fixed.He says ok then takes the computer for 200 dollars because it was out of warranty. by 6 months. I told them to put in a more powerful power supply pointed it out. they agree. I cam back 6 days later an they fixed NOTHING! They did not install my power supply which i pointed out and then claimed it would additional charges.
I approached my computer an immediately smell fried circuits. It is a VERY distinctive smell. Not solder from a soldering iron.The fried processor an other parts.I fix VCRs so i know what that smell is. He literally fried it. Then comes back an says. Yeah your Power supply is also fried. But now. So is your whole motherboard......
You know i was very very angry at this point. But all in all i ended up getting a whole new computer an Best Buy got a whole new Geek for what he did to my computer. That being said. I got a HP
HP Pavilion p6754y Desktop PC
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/product?cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&product=5049531
Here is the problem. I want to install my
XFX Radeon HD 6850
http://www.maximumpc.com/article/reviews/xfx_radeon_hd_6850_review
The problem here is. Last time i installed it on my other computer it fried it.What can i do to prevent this from happening again? Because one way or another its going in this new computer.
OldSmith
08-03-2011 09:39 PM (219 days ago)
Update 09-04-2011
Just wanted to let everyone know that 4 months later, the Cooler Master Silent-Pro-M 600W PSU is humming along silently & fine. It's a little big, but no problems installing.
Cooler Master Silent Pro M 600w I'd like to point out that for all that I too love New Egg, I bought this puppy on Amazon. When the 1st unit died they immediately shipped out a new one & sent a prepaid label for the doa PSU. I spent nothing extra & had the new unit in 2 days. Just sayin.
AOG
08-03-2011 11:16 PM (219 days ago)
egkor wrote:
AOG wrote:
Well that is interesting.
So in this case you ignored the latch that lock on the 5.5" which used to mount the PS correctly without movement
good for you, and good luck on the new upgrade
4 screws and the old PS came out. The new one went in, 4 screws back in to hold it into place. I didn't observe a latch, maybe I missed it.
I am actually surprised some of you are telling me I should have failed at this. I guess since I didn't know that going in, I was able to get it done. :smileyhappy:
-Gary K
Check the following link, it is the insturction how to replace a power supply in your PC
check step 9 , there you can see the latch also see the video
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01684432&tmp_task=useCategory&cc=us&dlc=en&lang...
egkor
08-04-2011 09:27 AM (218 days ago)
AOG wrote:
egkor wrote:
AOG wrote:
Well that is interesting.
So in this case you ignored the latch that lock on the 5.5" which used to mount the PS correctly without movement
good for you, and good luck on the new upgrade
4 screws and the old PS came out. The new one went in, 4 screws back in to hold it into place. I didn't observe a latch, maybe I missed it.
I am actually surprised some of you are telling me I should have failed at this. I guess since I didn't know that going in, I was able to get it done. :smileyhappy:
-Gary K
Check the following link, it is the insturction how to replace a power supply in your PC
check step 9 , there you can see the latch also see the video
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01684432&tmp_task=useCategory&cc=us&dlc=en&lang...
I see! Well, next time I open the unit up (maybe in the next day or two) I will check in there to see about the latch.
To replace the PS I had the unit laying on its side. The old PS came out, the new one went in, everything lined up and was happy, the 4 screws went back on. It all went pretty smooth.
BTW I had bought this PS (the Corsair GS700) because Best Buy had it on sale, and it exceeded my power needs. I think I was just looking at power required by a new video card and power provided by the new PS, that (and sale price) drove my choice to this PS.
If I every do it again I might look for a "modular" PS as this does have a lot of extra cabling that I coiled into a cicle and nylon cable-tied it into place so as to stay in place and allow air flow.
-Gary K
tarpon31
08-08-2011 05:17 PM (214 days ago)
Newegg just dropped the price on the corsair hx 650 and with the rebate brings the price to $89.99. I had to splurge and get this psu and move the cx600 to my spare computer. I feel more confident running the hx650 as it's higher quality and has more power on the rails available.
I'm glad Big_Dave shared that his hx650 is compatible with the HP motherboard or I would have never known that this one would work.
tarpon31
08-15-2011 09:53 PM (207 days ago)
Got the Corsair HX650 installed and have been using it for a few days. Even though I knew Big_Dave had success with his hx650 in his HP desktop I was still worried about compatibility with my HP desktop because of the issues I had with the Corsair 750 watt model and of course HP reps telling me that 600 watts was the limit one could use in the hp desktops.
So far so good this power supply is silent! had to check it to make sure that the fan was working because it is so quite but I do not hear it at all unless I put my ear realy close to it the Corsair CX600 I had before it was much more noisy as I could always hear the fan especialy under load.
One negative about the HX650 compared to the CX600 is it's size/weight the hx650 was a prety tight fit and takes up much more room in the desktop I also noticed that because of this that my graphics card temps have gone up about 6 degrees I am guessing because it takes up more room in the case as well has thicker wires than the cx600.
All in all both great units that will work with HP desktops and the HX650 being very high quality built and very quite. The CX600 is great for the price and will get the job done to. Unfortunatly the price I mentioned for the HX650 earlier is no longer available from newegg so it is now a bit more expensive. Good luck to everyone.
Big_Dave
08-16-2011 03:44 PM (206 days ago)
Hi Tarpon31,
Thanks for getting back to us about your success with the Corsair HX650. Yes the cables are a bit longer but depending the the PC case, you might be able to find room in an empty bay. I am using the HX650 in my e9280t which mounts the PSU fan up so it draws air thru the top edge of the case. It runs nice and cool. I also have the HX650 in a Rosewill Future case with lots of vents and four fans.
Monaulga
08-18-2011 04:40 AM (204 days ago)
Big_Dave
08-18-2011 06:32 AM (204 days ago)
Hi Monaulga,
Your PC has the HP 300 watt (Merlot) power supply. A standard size ATX power supply should fit.
You should open up your PC and measure the physical dimensions of your power supply. Here is a list of things to consider:
- Specifications
- Total wattage - important
- 12+ volt amperage rating - important
- Modular - not mandatory but I like the flexibility
- Warranty
- i7 and SLI ready
- Efficiency rating
- Cost
- Physical size -- standard ATX PSU is 5.5" by 5.9" by 3.4" give or take a few tenths
- A single 12+ volt rail is a better choice.
www.newegg.com has lots of PSUs choices. Corsair, OCZ, Rosewill, Thermaltake.....
This
Corsair CX500 is an excellent power supply. After rebate it's $50.
Monaulga
08-18-2011 06:57 AM (204 days ago)
Oh that is perfect!
My PSU
5-15/16"(w) x 5 1/2"(L) x 3 3/8"(H)
The Corsair CX500
5.9"(W) x 5.5"(L) x 3.4"(H)
Also wondering if you could help me with one more thing Big_Dave :D
Would this graphics card be compatible with my system as well along with that new PSU?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130625 Again thank you soo much for the help and i also gave you a star! :D
tarpon31
08-18-2011 10:11 AM (204 days ago)
Big_Dave is right the cx500 is a great choic especialy for the price.
As for graphics card IMO the GTX 460 is the best card that would work with that power supply. The GTX 460 is also probably the best card out right now for the money anytime you go for a card better than the 460 you come into diminishing returns and you start spending alot more money. If you get this card make sure you get the 1gb version and not the 768mb one also stay away from the "SE" version. Good Luck
Big_Dave
08-18-2011 01:34 PM (204 days ago)
Hi Monaula,
The NVIDIA 550TI is a very good choice. Open up your PC and do some measuring across the PCI-E x16 slot. The NVIDIA 550TI is 8.25" in length. The slot adjacent to the PCI-E x16 should be vacant.
These HP "how-to"
articles should be helpful.
Monaulga
08-18-2011 07:15 PM (204 days ago)
Thank you both for your responses and yes i checked and smiled when i seen i do have the available space which i did not consider checking before purchase so thank you for bringing that up and i also checked up on the GeForce GTX 460 1G and it is pretty sweet for the buck and i also did a hardware comparison between the 2 and would like to share that info.
http://www.hwcompare.com/9691/geforce-gtx-460-1gb-vs-geforce-gtx-550-ti/ Again thank you both for the help :D
the_Sean712
10-19-2011 04:27 PM (142 days ago)
This is my first post on the forums here, and I have never replaced a power supply before...so I apologize in advance for my lack of knowledge in this topic.
About 6 months ago I bought a new computer (HP Pavilion p6774y)...one of the downsides I read about the computer prior to buying it was that it ships with a 250W power supply, and that it could be a problem if you decided to add more RAM. Well, I just placed an order today that will boost my RAM up to the maximum of 16GB and I had totally forgotten about the mention that the power supply might be inadequate to handle that much RAM until AFTER my order for the RAM was already placed.
So...I'm just wondering if it will, indeed, be necessary for me to replace the power supply on my computer. And, if so, are there any recommendations for which power supply I should be looking at getting? A certain wattage, brand, model? I know absolutely NOTHING about replacing the power supply in a computer, so I don't want to just run out, buy a new power supply and then find out that it isn't going to fit in my case or be compatible with my motherboard etc.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Here is the link to the specifications of my computer:
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c02629593&cc=us&dlc=en&lc=en&product=5049534#N11...
Nautsj
10-27-2011 03:26 PM (134 days ago)
Good Day,
I have a HPE H8-1090d, i understand the power supply is only 460 watts?, not enough for a GTX 570 (currently GTX 460).
Which brand power supply will fit the casing? I cannot find the dimensions anywhere. What should i do?
Thank you very much.
Big_Dave
10-27-2011 04:56 PM (134 days ago)
Hi Nautsj,
You should open up your PC and measure the physical dimensions of your power supply. Here is a list of things to consider:
1. Specifications
2. Total wattage - important
3. 12+ volt amperage rating - important
4. Modular - not mandatory but I like the flexibility
5. Warranty
6. i7 and SLI ready
7. Efficiency rating
8. Cost
9. Physical size -- standard ATX PSU is 5.5" by 5.9" by 3.4" give or take a few tenths
10. A single 12+ volt rail is a better choice.
www.newegg.com has lots of PSUs choices. Corsair, OCZ, Rosewill, Thermaltake.....
The typical EVGA GTX 570 in 9" in length. The slot adjacent to the PCI-E x16 slot need to be vacant. Open up your PC and do some measuring so that you know for sure if the card will fit. I believe it will fit.
As for a power supply, the
Corsair CX600 has very little growth but the
Corsair HX650 will give you plenty of room to grow.
I am using the HX650 in two PCs. It's a modular model so you have better options with the cable selection.
The HP "how-to"
articles should be helpful.
TIP: When installling the power supply, unlatch the optical drive and slide it forward to ease the removal and installation of the new power supply.
Nautsj
10-27-2011 06:08 PM (134 days ago)
Wow, thank you for your reply. I opened up the casing just now, looks very tight.
I am from South East Asia. Will bring the casing to the computer shop and get them to fix the power supply. Looking at Corsair or Cooler Master, depends on what they have in stock.
Thank you very much once again for your reply.
Cheers and have a good day.
Nautsj
10-27-2011 08:51 PM (134 days ago)
Big_Dave
10-28-2011 08:00 AM (133 days ago)
Hi,
The wattage appears to be sufficient and the physical dimensions are good. You should be OK.
broncbuster187
11-10-2011 10:35 AM (120 days ago)
gamingb
11-14-2011 12:13 PM (116 days ago)
You should take a look at the NewEgg or ThermalTake
PSU calculators. Both make it super easy to see if you have the right amount of power for your PC. As a rule of thumb I always get an extra 100w more than I've calculated if I'm upgrading just to make sure I won't need more in the future and my numbers are correct.
Big_Dave
11-14-2011 02:20 PM (116 days ago)
Hi Bronkbuster187,
You should open up your PC and measure the dimensions of your existing power supply and see if the new PSU will fit. I don't believe that there will be an issue but it's always wise to double check you are looking at an off brand power supply.
Allowing for future growth by buying a larger power supply is good strategy, particularly if you might make other upgrades in the future.
Most video cards that are PCI 2.0 or even 2.1 are typically backward compatible in older HP PCs. I have seen some posts where ATI 5xxx video cards did not work in older HP PCs.
erico
11-17-2011 06:26 AM (113 days ago)
broncbuster187 wrote:
Hi all,
I'm looking to replace my 300w power supply in a a6560t to a higher watt one for a new video card.
Motherboard: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01324212&tmp_task=prodinfoCategory&lc=en&dlc=en...
would this work:
http://www.cpusolutions.com/store/pc/Ultra-Lifetime-Series-Pro-650W-ATX12V-EPS12V-Power-Supply-p1598...
Any pointers would be great. seems dimension are the issue here.
Also, if you have video card suggestions, i'd love to have them, currently running a PCI-E x16 (1.0 slot) 512 Geforce 9500 GS (I thinK). so I assume I would need a 1.0 slot graphics card.
Most HP
Desktop PCs contain ATX power supplies that are 6 inches (15.25 cm) x 5 inches (12.7 cm) x 3.25 inches (8.25 cm). If your PC has a standard ATX power supply, you can replace it with standard ATX power supplies sold by most electronic stores. Measure your PSU and check the dimensions on a PSU that you are looking at as a candidate for a PSU upgrade.
If you want to select a good PSU, then you should stick with well known and highly regarded brands like OCZ and Corsair. No name brands like the one you are looking at might save you a few $$ in the short run but in long term not be worth the small amount of savings.
Best regards,
erico
magna_988
11-25-2011 05:40 PM (105 days ago)
Hi,
I have the HPE 180t and I'm looking to upgrade the PSU and GPU.
After looking around, I have concluded on getting the GeForce GTX 560 Ti for the GPU.
I have a couple questions about the PSU however.
My motherboard is the Pegatron IPMTB-TK. After some research, I found that the motherboard is incapable of using the Corsair TX650. Has anyone found out why? I also read that the HX650 works with it, so I'm probably going to go with that one instead.
Now, in terms of case size, is there a general lee-way in terms of physical size of PSU? I am not currently with my desktop, so I can't just measure it right now, but the default PSU has dimensions 5-7/8" wide, 5 1/2" deep, 3 3/8" tall including fan.
The HX650 has the following dimensions: 150mm(W) x 150mm(L) x 86mm(H). Based on rough calculations, the HX650 is a bit wider and roughly 1/2 inch longer. I'm not worried about the length, but will the width difference be an issue?
Big_Dave
11-25-2011 05:54 PM (105 days ago)
Hi magna_988,
My e9280t (same mobo) is almost the exact configuration that you are considering. I have the Corsair HX650 PSU but only the NVIDIA GTX 460. Just be sure that the slot adjacent to the PCI-E slot is vacant.
If the top of your cabinet has slots running along the side edges then we have the exact case. You need to mount the PSU fan up so that it draws air through the slots for cooling the PSU.
The distance between the optical drive tightens up some with the HX650 but it's not a big problem.
TIP: Remove the front bezel (cover) and unlatch the optical drive and move it forward before you remove and replace the PSU. It will make the installation easier. The cables of the new PSU will be longer so find an empty bay and tuck them away to improve air flow.
These HP "how-to"
articles should be helpful.
packerbacker17
11-25-2011 06:34 PM (105 days ago)
I have a HP e9260f desktop with a MSI MS-7613 motherboard. This motherboard has a 24 pin power supply connector, plus the 4 pin power connector.
I am looking to upgrade the 350 watt power supply, but I am having trouble finding a 24 pin power supply.
What do you recommend?
Big_Dave
11-25-2011 06:39 PM (105 days ago)
Hi packerbacker17,
Almost all of the standard ATX power supplies are 24 pin plus a 4 pin ATX connector. The newer models have the 24 pin plus the 4+4 ATX connector which can be split.
You must be wanting to install a better video card. What card are you considering? The std. NVIDIA GT 230 in your model PC is not the best for video intensive applications.
BTw, Go Pack but go easy on the Vikings.
packerbacker17
11-25-2011 06:45 PM (105 days ago)
You guessed it, lol.
I am going to put a new card in my pc.
Then the wife's HP will get this card, a Nvidia GTX 285. The 285 fits, and I had it installed but any kind of load and the HP shuts down. I believe the minimum requirement for the GTX 285 is 500 watts.
packerbacker17
11-25-2011 06:59 PM (105 days ago)
Big_Dave
11-25-2011 07:02 PM (105 days ago)
Hi packerbacker17,
Go with the
Corsair CX500 or
CX600.
Review the
ATI and
NVIDIA performance specifications. Look at the memory bandwidth specifications and the DirectX level support.
The performance sweet spot right now is the
AMD Radeon 6850.:smileyhappy:
BTW, I am using the HX650 in my e9280t and Custom PCs.
packerbacker17
11-25-2011 07:10 PM (105 days ago)
THANKS!
magna_988
11-26-2011 05:50 AM (104 days ago)
Thanks for the help!
Lexo260
12-03-2011 02:01 AM (97 days ago)
I've got an older Compaq (SR1500NX - Model number: PX786AA) that I'd like to upgrade its video card. I don't know yet what GPU I will buy since I don’t know how much of a PSU upgrade my motherboard can handle. And I can’t seem to find specs on the power supply for this model. Any suggestions on PSU and GPU that would work with what I've got? I'm new to all this; I've only upgraded RAM in the past, but I’m a fast learner.
- AMD Sepron 3000+ 2.00 GHz
- Motherboard Name: A7V8X-LA
- HP/Compaq motherboard name: Ketut-GL6E
all other specs can be found at this HP link (if needed):
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=us&dlc=en&docname=c00387080&lc=en Thanks in advance
Big_Dave
12-03-2011 09:14 AM (97 days ago)
Hi Lexo260,
The original power supply in your PC is 250 watts with a 20 pin ATX motherboard power connector. Most of the newer power supplies have 20+4 pin ATX motherboard connectors. So you shouldn't have a problem if the right power supply is chosen.
You should open up your PC and measure the physical dimensions of your power supply. Here is a list of things to consider:
1. Specifications
2. Total wattage - important
3. 12+ volt amperage rating - important
4. Modular - not mandatory but I like the flexibility
5. Warranty
6. i7 and SLI ready
7. Efficiency rating
8. Cost
9. Physical size -- standard ATX PSU is 5.5" by 5.9" by 3.4" give or take a few tenths
10. A single 12+ volt rail is a better choice.
www.newegg.com has lots of PSUs choices.
Corsair, OCZ, Rosewill, Thermaltake.....
The PSU and GPU will depend on your applications. The prices will again change what is required. The Corsair that I suggested above is 500 watts and will run most video cards expect the upper end models.
Open up your PC have do some measuring in parallel with the PCI-E x16 slot. How much room do you have? The faster video cards are wider so the slot adjacent to the PCI-E x16 slot needs to be vacant.
rhode-runner
12-06-2011 09:53 AM (94 days ago)
I have a refurbished PC (
Pavilion p6267c). I’m looking to upgrade my PSU. I’m a casual gamer, and I want to eventually upgrade the video card but my budget is limited. I’m looking for something in the price range of $20 and $125 and maybe something around 500 to 600 watts.
Found this one at
Microcenter as well as this one at
newegg.com. Not sure if these are the right ones for my mobo. Any suggestions or recommendations would be appreciated. Thanks.
Big_Dave
12-06-2011 01:02 PM (94 days ago)
Hi rhode-runner,
Either one of the PSUs that you referenced should work. If you are unsure which of the faster video cards you might purchase, then consider a larger PSU to be on the safe side. The
Corsair CX600 would be an excellent choice and it has the same dimensions as your existing PSU.
These HP "how-to"
articles should be helpful.
rhode-runner
12-06-2011 01:58 PM (94 days ago)
@Big_Dave,
Thanks. I was thinking that a larger PSU would be beneficial and the Corsair CX600 looks to be perfect for my PC as well as my budget.
HellWo1f
12-08-2011 05:02 AM (92 days ago)
Ok guys...I have a p6716f HP desktop and was needing some info on what PSU to get. It has the integrated GPU 4200HD, but I've already bought a HIS Radeon HD 6850 GDDR5 GPU to put in the pci-e slot that's available. I had bought an Apevia 650W PSU to replace the 250W original, but unfortunately it went out this morning. Sad thing is that I've only had this PSU for a little over 2 months. Computer just would not come on. A friend actually recommended this PSU even though I was thinking about a Corsair 750W. I didn't have any problems originally before this morning. I could run Crysis & Crysis 2 on hardcore settings. I'm a gamer so normally I can be gaming for 8hrs straight at times. I eventually would like to get a Phenom II x6 Black Edition, but that's at a later date. Any suggestions?
Big_Dave
12-08-2011 08:36 AM (92 days ago)
Hi,
Go with the
Corsair CX600 for the power supply.
The motherboard in your PC is AM3 rated at 95 watts. These
AMD processors should work. Know what the return policy is before you buy.
HellWo1f
12-08-2011 12:13 PM (92 days ago)
Ok thx. The Corsair shouldn't short circuit like the Apevia should it? Just wandering bc it was a 650W...And thx btw.
Lexo260
12-10-2011 03:32 PM (90 days ago)
Hi Big_Dave,
Thnaks for the reply,
A standard ATX PSU will easily fit inside. However, my mobo does not have any PCI-e slots. Only two PCI and one AGP slot. So AGP it is.
My goal is to be able to watch HD content on my computer, and eventualy hook up the computer to TV, and so I still have a few questions:
Can my mobo handle just about any PSU upgarde, or does it top out at a certain wattage?
Also, does it matter that some AGP cards are using DDR3 and some DDR2?
And can my mobo handle just about any AGP card?
Like I said, Im super new to this. Really could use the help.
Thanks again
Big_Dave
12-10-2011 05:07 PM (90 days ago)
Hi Lexo260,
Your PC is pretty old for HD video. Typically an 800 mhz bus is needed to stay out of video frame stuttering.
thejackel
12-11-2011 06:53 AM (89 days ago)
Hi there
Is there a solution for the 4 pin power adaptor??? I have the new HP COMPAQ 8100 ELITE and i have a radion graphics card to go in it but no spare power??? I have a 1100w coolmaster couple of years old loads of power option but no old school 6pin plug !!!!
Is there a converter! or any thnk of a bigger power supply i can buty with 2 extra pciexpress connectors?
Any help i have look all other the web and this is the closest forum i can find!!!
Thanks
Big_Dave
12-11-2011 02:14 PM (89 days ago)
thejackel
12-13-2011 06:16 AM (87 days ago)
Hi thanks for your responce. but this isnt the issue its the fact the the 8100 elite can't take a standard atx power supply due to the on board connectors it seem to have one for a pci-e plug!!! 4pin standard power ofor cpu and a 6 pin aux -- heres a pic to the connector - what does it do and is there a convertor for this, or a bigger power supply avaible? I have plenty of 6 pin adaptors but no of the ones below --
thejackel
12-13-2011 08:34 AM (87 days ago)
Bump PLease
Big_Dave
12-13-2011 01:35 PM (87 days ago)
Hi,
You wanted a 4 pin solution (implying that you had a 4 pin adapter) and you got the solution. Your PC has a HP propriety power supply.
BTW, Bump does not work.
figureguy
12-22-2011 06:25 AM (78 days ago)
Good morning. I currently have an HP Pavilion p6514f. The only changes I have made from the factory specs is that I have upgraded the system to 8Gb of Ram. I am looking to change the power supply out for at least a 450W, preferably a 500W. Does anyone have any suggestions based on the system specs a good replacement? I buy from Newegg, and don't want to spend a ton. The only reason I am is I might buy a video card in the near future. Also, I don't know how hard it is to change a power supply, I never have. Is it difficult, or something I can easily do myself? Thanks so much for your help.
Big_Dave
12-22-2011 04:51 PM (78 days ago)
Hi figureguy,
The
Corsair CX500 will be a good fit for your PC.
These HP 'how-to"
articles should be helpful.
TIP: Remove the front bezel (cover) and unlatch the optical drive and move it forward before you remove and replace the PSU. It will make the installation easier. The cables of the new PSU will be longer so find an empty bay and tuck them away to improve air flow.
thejackel
12-23-2011 06:14 AM (77 days ago)
Soo...
Do i give up here trying to find a power supply other than standard that supports the hp board? If so i shall be returning the pc and never buying from hp again!
All i want to do is upgrade thegraphics card which requires a biger PSU but due to the no-standard way hp have designed the elite they are infact uselss??
I have even looked into duel power supplie boxes but there will be an issue connecting the current PSU into the new one, not to mention the no-stadard conenctores every were!
Surely there is a solution for the elite to have bigger PSU for the higer spec machines to run better graphics? Or y else does it have 3 PCI -e connectors whihc you cant use with out using to much power..
So about this rant .... I have always been keen on HP machines and found them to be fast and reliable in the passed altho a little anoying to upgrade before but con-grads HP you final made a PC which might as well be a Mac as you can't upgrade and your stuck with **bleep** windows the worst of both worlds!!!!!
If there is any one out there who knows how i can get a PSU to work you must be being held ramson by HP
Big_Dave
12-23-2011 11:10 AM (77 days ago)
Hi thejackel,
I see your frustration with the situation. I don't know if anyone out here has modified a PSU to work with the power connectors that are required by the motherboard in your PC. I am not saying that it's impossible but it would take some research.
There are some mid-range full height PCI-E video cards that will work with a 300 watt power supply. Do you have the 320 watt power supply in your PC? What is the exact HP product number for your PC?
You do have 21 days to return the PC.
$130-->
NVIDIA GT 545 43 GB/s -- single slot width ---- might be hard to find but perhaps only in the store
$80 at
Tiger Direct -->NVIDIA GT 240 54.4 BG/s -- single slot --This card doesn't support DirectX 11 which is
optionally used in some of the newer PC games but it is an excellent performer.
Review the
NVIDIA performance specifications. Look at the memory bandwidth specifications and the DirectX level support.
Kantucki
12-23-2011 07:07 PM (77 days ago)
RenaultFan
01-02-2012 01:36 PM (67 days ago)
I have an HP a6750t any ideas what type of power supply box I need. Not very good with this, The current one is 300 watts, and measure's 5.5L 6W 3.5 H. I would like to get something between 550 and 700 watts. As well as a good brand so its something that will last.
Big_Dave
01-02-2012 01:54 PM (67 days ago)
Hi RenaultFan,
This
Corsair CX600 is an excellent quality power supply and it will fit your PC.
RenaultFan
01-02-2012 02:27 PM (67 days ago)
Thanks
RenaultFan
01-05-2012 06:16 AM (64 days ago)
I got the box but I have no info on how to install this. I put it in, it had power but the screen remained black.
RenaultFan
01-05-2012 06:49 AM (64 days ago)
It seems its not running because it doesn't have a P4 MB, is there anything I can do about that or do I have to send the box back.
RenaultFan
01-05-2012 07:13 AM (64 days ago)
Big_Dave
01-06-2012 07:05 AM (63 days ago)
Hi,
Most Corsair power supplies ship with an 8-pin connector that splits in half. Use half of this connector for the 4-pin EPS/ATX 12v connector on your motherboard. That step should be in the manual under step B.
RenaultFan
01-08-2012 07:27 AM (61 days ago)
Thanks, I got a 4 pin converter and installed the PSu and it works but the new PSU had no difference in my games FPS, going to buy a new graphics card and hope that improves the FPS over my old one. Getting tired of spending money and nothing is working so hopefully the card will. Also the processor fan I got is a clip in rather then screw in and it won't clip in. Even took the motherboard out to get it to snap in and nothing. Anyone know of anything that I can use to install the new fan?
knightlord22
01-16-2012 03:50 PM (53 days ago)
Hi. I have a slimline cpu ( hp compact dc7700 Small Form Factor). At present it has an 240W psu and i need to upgrade it to 350-450W psu. Is there any part available for a it?
Big_Dave
01-16-2012 06:49 PM (53 days ago)
Hi,
That would be a no.:smileysad:
knightlord22
01-17-2012 03:06 AM (52 days ago)
Too bad!! thanks for the fast reply!
Deathicism
02-02-2012 05:57 PM (36 days ago)
Hey all, I currently have the HP p7-1038. The computer came with a 250W PSU: dimensions: 5.9 x 5.5 x 3.4 (inches). I'm looking to upgrade so that I can replace the HD 6450 (absolute garbage). I was wondering if you could recommend a power supply that will fit my case, and hopefully be in the range from 550W-650W. I was also wondering if you know if a HD 6850 would be able to fit inside the case (lengthwise)?
Thanks for any information, its greatly appreciated!
Big_Dave
02-02-2012 08:05 PM (36 days ago)
Hi Deathicism,
Try a
Corsair CX600. Corsair is a quality power supply and the CX600 will be plenty for your needs.
The Sapphire
HD6850 and
HD6870 are both 8.5" in length and should fit. The HD6870 might be the better buy.
Open up your PC and do some measuring in parallel with the PCI-E x16 slot to see how long of a video card will fit. The slot adjacent to the PCI-E x16 slot needs to be vacant. Look carefully at the motherboard and makes sure that components on the motherboard don't interfere with the installation of the video card.
These HP 'how-to"
articles should be helpful.
Deathicism
02-02-2012 08:31 PM (36 days ago)
Hey, thanks for the amazing response time. I've noticed that the CX 600 has a fan that's pointing up into the case. My computer's power supply is at the top back corner, is this going to be a problem with the fan blowing into the case?
Big_Dave
02-03-2012 10:23 AM (35 days ago)
Hi,
Most power supplies can be mounted up or down depending on where the case air intake is located.
snyder250
02-05-2012 09:10 AM (33 days ago)
hey got a queston for u guys. i bought a asus gtx 550 for my brother and i need help picking a power suply that will work on his p6754y. video card says minimum is 400 w so i was think like 430-450 w.
Big_Dave
02-05-2012 01:30 PM (33 days ago)
Hi snyder250,
Look for a Corsair brand power supply. The
CX430 would be the minimum. The
CX500 would be a better choice.
These HP 'how-to"
articles should be helpful.
KeithM
02-10-2012 03:40 PM (28 days ago)
Hi, I am wanting to upgrade my video card and power supply if possible and advisable.
d5200t - Core 2 Quad Q9650 (3.0GHz /1333 MHz) 12 MB L2 cache; Quad Core, Radeon HD 4850, 8 GB Ram. 3 Hard drives, 460 watt PCU with external hard drive sometimes plugged in. I also have a sound card and a camera docking station.
Want to upgrade to Radeon HD6850 and 650 watt power supply.
UPGRADE TO -CORSAIR Professional Series HX650 (CMPSU-650HX) 650W ATX12V v2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
&
SAPPHIRE 100315L Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card with Eyefinity
I thought I might be already pushing the limits of existing Power Supply.
I want to upgrade those two components but not if it will not be adviseable.
Thanks for any advice.
Keith
Edit-Reading other posts I thought I should add that I have 2 dvd drives.
Fingernator
02-16-2012 02:09 PM (22 days ago)
shadydawg69
02-16-2012 05:00 PM (22 days ago)
Hi I just bought a pavilion p7-1003w and need to upgrade the video card. In order to do so I need a 400w power supply or better. Can someone please recommend one for me that will fit in my case and have the proper pins and what not. I'm looking to buy a radeon hd 6000 series thanks in advance
Ltahab
03-08-2012 05:06 PM (1 day ago)
Ok, I've got a p6350z with the factory graphics card (ATI Radeon HD 4200) and am looking to upgrade but I'm seeing that they recommend a 400w or higher power supply to support the new card. Can someone suggest a good power supply that's compatible with my desktop? Thanks much.
Big_Dave
03-08-2012 07:10 PM (1 day ago)
Hi Ltahab,
The size of the power supply needs to be matched to the video card. You probably can't go wrong by using the
Corsair CX600.
These HP 'how-to"
articles should be helpful.
Big_Dave
03-08-2012 07:15 PM (1 day ago)
Hi Shadydaw69,
Read through the suggestions at this
post.